Quote from: holydarkness on Today at 08:41:17 AM

Quote from: samk1m on Today at 05:49:06 AM

Quote from: holydarkness on May 04, 2025, 06:17:08 PM

Quote from: samk1m on May 04, 2025, 09:00:49 AM

Since many of you have taken interest in this, let me elaborate once again in easy terms.

I shared my referral link in a busy public Discord chat regarding crypto gambling. No, I don't control what gets clicked or ignored. That's how public discussions are. I didn't try to micromanage every non-click that isn't how affiliate links work. You share them out, and if someone finds value in the platform, they use it. That's exactly what happened here.

So that's it, you only share there? You try to get into an affiliate activity and you choose to spread your link in one media, only one, and a very busy channel that'll easily drown your chat. Not somewhere more quiet and personal and will bring more permanence like your Instagram, or work colleague? May I ask why?

Is it because you simply just randomly posting, couldn't care less who will use your link as you're not really investing into it?

Quote from: samk1m on May 04, 2025, 09:00:49 AM

And regarding how the referral landed on my link you're talking to the wrong person. Ask Betcoin. They're the ones who tracked the user and claim to know so much. If they have such specific information, then surely they can give what abuse was perpetrated? Because until now, it's just been smoke, jokes, and defamation. Still waiting for real evidence.

That's the problem, acccording to them, it's not discord. Thoughts?

Let's take a step back here.

Why am I being cross-examined in detail when I'm the one being accused? I'm not the casino. I don't have click logs, user tracking software, or IP records. Betcoin does.

They're the ones who are making the following accusations:

My referral is "abusive"

I'm somehow connected with that player

I'm trying some kind of scam

Okay. Then prove it.
Not with jokes. Not with sweepstakes posts making fun of my username.
With evidence.

Well, isn't that what I've been trying to do? To prove and/or disprove your claim? Hence the questions? To zeroing into a proof that you indeed shared the link and the one you refer is not yourself or someone related to you.

Though I am fumbling in the dark here as I have two lead to chase. From you, a narrative that your ref is a stranger that stumbled upon your link in a fast moving, heavily populated, open channel on discord. From them, not discord.

Quote from: samk1m on Today at 05:49:06 AM

Instead of answering the many obvious and direct questions others have asked (including calls to explain what specific "abuse" took place), Betcoin just keeps throwing out more insults, evasions, and distractions. They had no issue with the click and paying the affiliate commission until after did they reverse it and try to spin the story around.

Then, focus on me?

Quote from: samk1m on Today at 05:49:06 AM

So why is the defendant being asked to disprove something the accuser won't even define?

Or... rather to prove the defendant's statement and turn it from hearsay to an evidence?

Quote from: samk1m on Today at 05:49:06 AM

Until they can produce actual proof of abuse not just vague claims and deflection this is a case of wrongful seizure and public slander, as clear as day.

I'm happy to discuss, but only if the same degree of scrutiny is applied to Betcoin, not just me.

Ok sure, Betcoin.AG, according to your system, you said that OP did not share on discord, do you mind to share your findings? In private through PM if you deemed it necessary to protect privacy and/or integrity of your system.

@holydarkness Let’s recap. It is me who has been accused. My funds were taken, but I guess, somehow, I must be the one proving everything. Betcoin, in the meantime, declared $250 in earned affiliate commission as the public joke of the day and is now sticking to vague accusations and claims that cannot be verified. They accuse me of being in the referral's KYC video however, I did not even complete KYC myself on their site. This fact only, should be enough for a red flag. They claim I didn’t post the link on Discord, yet they don’t want to say where it purportedly came from. They say my referral is connected to me no proof. No detail. Just “trust us.” They claim there was abuse but won’t define what the abuse actually was. And when asked for answers? They release memes, divert attention, and now assert that I will never see any cash. You have asked me why I shared the link on a Discord server that was on the go. Because that's where I was frequently active. That's not breaking any rules. And I would like to emphasize: if I earned $250, it is because the referred player lost more. Betcoin gained first and only after that moved the goalposts. Honestly speaking, this is not a matter of policy. It is a matter of power. They have taken the money. They run the platform. And now they have figured it out. It is easier to be ridiculous than to show proof. So I ask you, face to face: Is it relevant to you to have this condition? Because an operator can take commissions without showing any evidence, and in addition, they defame the user by refusing transparency; this is not only my concern. Every affiliate should worry about this matter. @holydarkness, you have established trust in this place. Do not allow them to burn it down to cover their tracks.