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It's a complex topic because it goes against the testnet principles, that's why the community will not be agree with the testnet market

I'd say drugs, kid porn and extortion go against lot of peoples principles as well.  Owning an exchange using decentralize cryptocurrency does not go against my principles, so I guess I would say "toughKeep that shit". For example out of different "principles" that dismissTestnet with a "group's" feelings are probably based:firm date to depreciate the latest version.  China doesn't like WinnieThough, I am curious how bad depreciation actually is... it is worth testing when they have foundations.  IF it is worth nothing, then it will had no people on the Poohbid and I like that honey-eating bearthe ask will be stacked full.  Eventually the exchange would run out of money, in theory. Tongue

Keep thatOwning an exchange using decentralize cryptocurrency does not go against my principles, so I guess I would say "tough shit out". For example of Testnet withdifferent "principles" that dismiss a firm date"group's" feelings are probably based: China doesn't like Winnie the Pooh and I like that honey-eating bear.  I enjoy helping people get whole Bitcoin Testnet coins and helping the network expand.  Bitcoin is out in lala stock land doing Altstocks to depreciateget rich (way worse than Altcoins I'd bet.). Testnet is a great place at the latest versionmoment.

It was depreciated, maybe that's the reason, and what will happen when the testen 3 gets depreciated? all the users who spend their money on that will lose their investment. Simple as that.  

It isn't that simple.  Bitcoin Testnet 3 is trading for over 10x Bitcoin Testnet 4 at the time of this post.  That is *insane* to me.

Bitcoin Testnet is actually being used by people who don't care, it is really a crazy thing to see.  In terms of "Bitcoin" just being a title of the most valuable (kinda), Bitcoin Testnet v3 is real and v4 is just a worthless shit fork rejected by a large part of the community.  Perhaps Testnet is opposite and the "winner" is the one with less value, but I doubt it... it doesn't work like that for anything else in the world I'm aware of.

Bitcoin Core really fucked v4 up and gave people a free ticket to beat out honest miners with a smart Windows 98 machine.

This "punishment" actually has further grown v3 people because they are mining v4... dumping them and buying V3. LOL *shrugs* it is wild.

Opnet.org and yala.org are both using v3 and they have a ton of asians.

Citrea (the startup mentioned in the OP_Return stuff) is using v4.

I think OPNet does everything Citrea wants to do and there is no BIP required for OPNet.  (research this on your own, I'm not for sure, I can't keep up with all the projects I hear about)

If we start giving a real application to the testnet coins, then we will see soon casinos running with testnet, and some other applications, but there is a reason behind why the big exchanges doesn't include testnet, and that's because the testnet is in a constant transition.

People should gamble their testnet to practice + evaluate if the website is provably fair in "action".

So what. People get a chance to see how it feels to gamble with something that will lead them to Bitcoin?  Casinos dump coins + give them away spreading the network and being large is a good thing, not a bad thing.

The misconception years ago was 0.00001 TBTC was more than enough to dust, but as https://citrea.xyz/bridge shows, having a few coins on hand isn't a bad thing for research.  Testnet has and is evolving remarkably fast.  There are many other examples, but that's the hot startup of the week in public testing.

Everyone testing Citrea at scale will dump for anything when they are done because getting $50 is a nice lunch.  The person that buys them hopefully has big plans for them and the process repeats, hopefully with no long-term hopes.
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It's a complex topic because it goes against the testnet principles, that's why the community will not be agree with the testnet market

I'd say drugs, kid porn and extortion go against lot of peoples principles as well.  Owning an exchange using decentralize cryptocurrency does not go against my principles, but it still occurs in Bitcoin because they see it as a long term storeso I guess I would say "tough shit". For example of valuedifferent "principles" that dismiss a "group's" feelings are probably based: China doesn't like Winnie the Pooh and easy to moveI like that honey-eating bear. 

Keep that shit out of Testnet with a firm date to depreciate the latest version.

It was depreciated, maybe that's the reason, and what will happen when the testen 3 gets depreciated? all the users who spend their money on that will lose their investment. Simple as that.  

It isn't that simple.  Bitcoin Testnet 3 is trading for over 10x Bitcoin Testnet 4 at the time of this post.  That is *insane* to me.

Bitcoin Testnet is actually being used by people who don't care, it is really a crazy thing to see.

If we start giving a real application to the testnet coins, then we will see soon casinos running with testnet, and some other applications, but there is a reason behind why the big exchanges doesn't include testnet, and that's because the testnet is in a constant transition.

People should gamble their testnet to practice + evaluate if the website is provably fair in "action".

So what. People get a chance to see how it feels to gamble with something that will lead them to Bitcoin?  Casinos dump coins + give them away spreading the network and being large is a good thing, not a bad thing.

The misconception years ago was 0.00001 TBTC was more than enough to dust, but as https://citrea.xyz/bridge shows, having a few coins on hand isn't a bad thing for research.  Testnet has and is evolving remarkably fast.  There are many other examples, but that's the hot startup of the week in public testing.

Everyone testing Citrea at scale will dump for anything when they are done because getting $50 is a nice lunch.  The person that buys them hopefully has big plans for them and the process repeats, hopefully with no long-term hopes.
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It's a complex topic because it goes against the testnet principles, that's why the community will not be agree with the testnet market

I'd say drugs, kid porn and extortion go against lot of peoples principles as well, but it still occurs in Bitcoin because they see it as a long term store of value and easy to move.

Keep that shit out of Testnet with a firm date to depreciate the latest version.

It was depreciated, maybe that's the reason, and what will happen when the testen 3 gets depreciated? all the users who spend their money on that will lose their investment. Simple as that. 

It isn't that simple.  Bitcoin Testnet 3 is trading for over 10x Bitcoin Testnet 4 at the time of this post.  That is *insane* to me.

Bitcoin Testnet is actually being used by people who don't care, it is really a crazy thing to see.

If we start giving a real application to the testnet coins, then we will see soon casinos running with testnet, and some other applications, but there is a reason behind why the big exchanges doesn't include testnet, and that's because the testnet is in a constant transition.

People should gamble their testnet to practice + evaluate if the website is provably fair in "action".

So what. People get a chance to see how it feels to gamble with something that will lead them to Bitcoin?  Casinos dump coins + give them away spreading the network and being large is a good thing, not a bad thing.

The misconception years ago was 0.00001 TBTC was more than enough to dust, but as https://citrea.xyz/bridge shows, having a few coins on hand isn't a bad thing for research.  Testnet has and is evolving remarkably fast.  There are many other examples, but that's the hot startup of the week in public testing.

Everyone testing Citrea at scale will dump for anything when they are done because getting $50 is a nice lunch.  The person that buys them hopefully has big plans for them and the process repeats, hopefully with no long-term hopes.