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Are you guys somehow trying to walltext this instead of talking about the meeting in Turkiya? Aparently, there may be some short of possibility of Putin and Zelensky actually meeting in Turkiya.

Zelensky said he would be there, the US and the "coalition of the willing" want them both there and ... well, there comes the problem: Putin may not be interested. But it is good that at least the US keeps on the accelerated course on Ruzzian diplomacy and have a good understanding why, after three years of war, the main obstacle for any peace remains ... Putin.



December 2, 2022 Putin open to Ukraine talks after Biden signals willingness if Russia serious about ending war

Feb 28, 2023 Russia Lays Out Peace Negotiation Terms That 'Cannot Be Ignored'

April 22, 2025 Putin says he’s open to direct talks with Ukraine as US pressure builds


February 08, 2024
Putin told Carlson in an interview from Moscow that Russia has “never refused negotiations” and would welcome any efforts from Washington to discuss a peace agreement in Ukraine.

“We hear all the time, ‘Is Russia ready?’ Yes,” Putin said in the interview that aired Thursday. “We have not refused. It was them who publicly refused.”

Putin has claimed before that he is open to negotiating an end to the war, including after Russian forces suffered massive losses in 2022 following Ukrainian counteroffensives.

But U.S. officials have expressed wariness at the claims because Russia still demands Ukraine not be included in the Western security alliance NATO and Moscow wants to hold the roughly 18 percent of territory Russian forces occupy in eastern Ukraine.

Zelenskiy decree rules out Ukraine talks with Putin as 'impossible'

President of Ukraine V. ZELENSKY
September 30, 2022

Enacted by the Decree of the President of Ukraine
dated September 30, 2022
â„– 679/2022

DECISION

of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine

dated September 30, 2022

Regarding Ukraine’s actions in response to the Russian Federation’s attempt to annex the territories of our state, in order to guarantee the security of the Euro-Atlantic space, Ukraine, and restore its territorial integrity

Taking into account the results of the meeting of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief’s Headquarters and having heard the members of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine decided:

1. To state the impossibility of holding negotiations with the President of the Russian Federation V. Putin.
..

April 20, 2022 UK PM Johnson says Ukraine peace talks are doomed because of "crocodile" Putin

 Roll Eyes wonder what happened since then

But honestly, Boris should've never been allowed to torpedo negotiation back in 2022. So however you want to sell these negotiations to your targeted audience, like amazing Z with his super intelligence and his super human EU friends with their wunderwaffe outwit Putin and returns to the same negotiation table that Z walked out on 3 years ago, is fine by me. Just force Z to the negotiation table and mass media can sell it to their dumb audience however they want.

DaRude, since Ruzzia decided to invade crimea in 2014, Putin has always SAID that he wants to talk to achieve peace. The obvious problem is that when he says peace he means "dictating the terms of the surrendering".

I told you, I am already in the "advanced" level of Ruzzian diplomacy and have learned to translate "Peace" from "Putinian" into English. Peace means surrender, negotiating means repeating the same over and over, "agreement" means "toilet paper" and "safety guarantees" mean ... well, nothing.

I am starting to wonder if all this due to translation mistakes.

Zelensky asks for peace in the form of ultimatums. They exist simply and only to infuriate Putin into acting rashly. Z isn't serious about peace at all, and Putin knows it. All Z wants is a vacation to Istanbul.

Now that you know this, you can figure out your translation better.

Cool

EDIT: Besides, Putin will never go to Istanbul. Turkey is NATO. It would be foolish of him in 'war' time, and Z and Trump and Europe know it. It's all fake stuff to distract us common folk.
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Are you guys somehow trying to walltext this instead of talking about the meeting in Turkiya? Aparently, there may be some short of possibility of Putin and Zelensky actually meeting in Turkiya.

Zelensky said he would be there, the US and the "coalition of the willing" want them both there and ... well, there comes the problem: Putin may not be interested. But it is good that at least the US keeps on the accelerated course on Ruzzian diplomacy and have a good understanding why, after three years of war, the main obstacle for any peace remains ... Putin.



December 2, 2022 Putin open to Ukraine talks after Biden signals willingness if Russia serious about ending war

Feb 28, 2023 Russia Lays Out Peace Negotiation Terms That 'Cannot Be Ignored'

April 22, 2025 Putin says he’s open to direct talks with Ukraine as US pressure builds


February 08, 2024
Putin told Carlson in an interview from Moscow that Russia has “never refused negotiations” and would welcome any efforts from Washington to discuss a peace agreement in Ukraine.

“We hear all the time, ‘Is Russia ready?’ Yes,” Putin said in the interview that aired Thursday. “We have not refused. It was them who publicly refused.”

Putin has claimed before that he is open to negotiating an end to the war, including after Russian forces suffered massive losses in 2022 following Ukrainian counteroffensives.

But U.S. officials have expressed wariness at the claims because Russia still demands Ukraine not be included in the Western security alliance NATO and Moscow wants to hold the roughly 18 percent of territory Russian forces occupy in eastern Ukraine.

Zelenskiy decree rules out Ukraine talks with Putin as 'impossible'

President of Ukraine V. ZELENSKY
September 30, 2022

Enacted by the Decree of the President of Ukraine
dated September 30, 2022
â„– 679/2022

DECISION

of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine

dated September 30, 2022

Regarding Ukraine’s actions in response to the Russian Federation’s attempt to annex the territories of our state, in order to guarantee the security of the Euro-Atlantic space, Ukraine, and restore its territorial integrity

Taking into account the results of the meeting of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief’s Headquarters and having heard the members of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine decided:

1. To state the impossibility of holding negotiations with the President of the Russian Federation V. Putin.
..

April 20, 2022 UK PM Johnson says Ukraine peace talks are doomed because of "crocodile" Putin

 Roll Eyes wonder what happened since then

But honestly, Boris should've never been allowed to torpedo negotiation back in 2022. So however you want to sell these negotiations to your targeted audience, like amazing Z with his super intelligence and his super human EU friends with their wunderwaffe outwit Putin and returns to the same negotiation table that Z walked out on 3 years ago, is fine by me. Just force Z to the negotiation table and mass media can sell it to their dumb audience however they want.

DaRude, since Ruzzia decided to invade crimea in 2014, Putin has always SAID that he wants to talk to achieve peace. The obvious problem is that when he says peace he means "dictating the terms of the surrendering".

I told you, I am already in the "advanced" level of Ruzzian diplomacy and have learned to translate "Peace" from "Putinian" into English. Peace means surrender, negotiating means repeating the same over and over, "agreement" means "toilet paper" and "safety guarantees" mean ... well, nothing.

I am starting to wonder if all this due to translation mistakes.

Zelensky asks for peace in the form of ultimatums. They exist simply and only to infuriate Putin into acting rashly. Z isn't serious about peace at all, and Putin knows it. All Z wants is a vacation to Istanbul.

Now that you know this, you can figure out your translation better.

Cool
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Are you guys somehow trying to walltext this instead of talking about the meeting in Turkiya? Aparently, there may be some short of possibility of Putin and Zelensky actually meeting in Turkiya.

Zelensky said he would be there, the US and the "coalition of the willing" want them both there and ... well, there comes the problem: Putin may not be interested. But it is good that at least the US keeps on the accelerated course on Ruzzian diplomacy and have a good understanding why, after three years of war, the main obstacle for any peace remains ... Putin.



December 2, 2022 Putin open to Ukraine talks after Biden signals willingness if Russia serious about ending war

Feb 28, 2023 Russia Lays Out Peace Negotiation Terms That 'Cannot Be Ignored'

April 22, 2025 Putin says he’s open to direct talks with Ukraine as US pressure builds


February 08, 2024
Putin told Carlson in an interview from Moscow that Russia has “never refused negotiations” and would welcome any efforts from Washington to discuss a peace agreement in Ukraine.

“We hear all the time, ‘Is Russia ready?’ Yes,” Putin said in the interview that aired Thursday. “We have not refused. It was them who publicly refused.”

Putin has claimed before that he is open to negotiating an end to the war, including after Russian forces suffered massive losses in 2022 following Ukrainian counteroffensives.

But U.S. officials have expressed wariness at the claims because Russia still demands Ukraine not be included in the Western security alliance NATO and Moscow wants to hold the roughly 18 percent of territory Russian forces occupy in eastern Ukraine.

Zelenskiy decree rules out Ukraine talks with Putin as 'impossible'

President of Ukraine V. ZELENSKY
September 30, 2022

Enacted by the Decree of the President of Ukraine
dated September 30, 2022
â„– 679/2022

DECISION

of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine

dated September 30, 2022

Regarding Ukraine’s actions in response to the Russian Federation’s attempt to annex the territories of our state, in order to guarantee the security of the Euro-Atlantic space, Ukraine, and restore its territorial integrity

Taking into account the results of the meeting of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief’s Headquarters and having heard the members of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine decided:

1. To state the impossibility of holding negotiations with the President of the Russian Federation V. Putin.
..

April 20, 2022 UK PM Johnson says Ukraine peace talks are doomed because of "crocodile" Putin

 Roll Eyes wonder what happened since then

But honestly, Boris should've never been allowed to torpedo negotiation back in 2022. So however you want to sell these negotiations to your targeted audience, like amazing Z with his super intelligence and his super human EU friends with their wunderwaffe outwit Putin and returns to the same negotiation table that Z walked out on 3 years ago, is fine by me. Just force Z to the negotiation table and mass media can sell it to their dumb audience however they want.

DaRude, since Ruzzia decided to invade crimea in 2014, Putin has always SAID that he wants to talk to achieve peace. The obvious problem is that when he says peace he means "dictating the terms of the surrendering".

I told you, I am already in the "advanced" level of Ruzzian diplomacy and have learned to translate "Peace" from "Putinian" into English. Peace means surrender, negotiating means repeating the same over and over, "agreement" means "toilet paper" and "safety guarantees" mean ... well, nothing.

I am starting to wonder if all this due to translation mistakes.

Zelensky asks for peace in the form of ultimatums. They exist simply and only to infuriate Putin into acting rashly. Z isn't serious about peace at all, and Putin knows it.

Now that you know this, you can figure out your translation better.

Cool