A LOT of this is your opinion.  More so than you lead on or maybe even believe yourself in this moment.  I think your technically sound, but your opinion appears to be frequently fucky.  You'd be a good teacher, but these streets man... you know!

My testing should be none of your business.  Do you think private companies need approval from you or anyone else to do any type of testing?  Who are you? lol, like you asked me.

The goal of Testnet is to mimic Bitcoin as much as possible without appearing to have a long term store of value and potentially competecompeting with Bitcoin & being beneficial to Bitcoin.  Right or right(ish)? Perhaps everyone has a different goal and we all just naturally blend together(?).  It's fun.  None of us support child porn, but how much have you contributed to Bitcoin for them to stop using it?  I imagine it is MUCH less than what you are doing with these Bitcoin Testnet worthless nothingness.

Regardless of the goal, POW mimics Bitcoin... (changing that hurts *some* devs (lol noobs), as displayed in real life at this moment).  And having a central authority could cause unexpected issues..  Of all types.  I think Bitcoin is beautiful because it doesn't do that, no one should download a Bitcoin client and get something by default centralized IMO.  

If your coolyou’re okay with that, why didn'’t you do it when you had Bitcoin commit access  from 2012- to 2015? You had access during the launch of Testnet 3 launch, if. If anyone saysclaims a bug iswas left in and has purposeintentionally, thatand should be taken seriously... is, it’s you. (Please correct me if I’m wrong.)

That is fucking wild dude.

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Furthermore, I fear that opens that central authority up to many other problems... What happens when one of those selected parties decides not to be so honest and cash out?  It happens in faucets ALL the time.  I *know* it is happening more than is currently visible, but I'm not an investigator and I don't want to make half statements.  That's one of the reasons I built my faucet, I got sick of people stealing my good-intended donations.

Further moreAlso, I line up buyiers 10 million coins @ 1 sat for .21 BTC.  Are we going to launch a testnet every week and how would that be handled?  I'm assuming privately and doing that privatelybeing decentralized with the intent of fucking "naiveno" enough users feels a lot like unjust enrichmentpremine is what kept Bitcoin itself out of the way of several governments.  Idk, but something feels *icky* and worry some.. Perhaps a premine would attach them.

Suppose I line up buyers 10 million coins @ 1 sat for a whopping 0.1 BTC.  Are we going to launch a testnet every week and how would that be handled?  I'm assuming privately and doing that privately with the intent of fucking "naive" enough users feels a lot like unjust enrichment.  Idk, but something feels *icky* and worrysome.  

Greg, there are turds in the punch bowel developing.  They are some of our biggest day traders... which I guess is good for me too, but it's gross.

Just keep that in mind when making stuff "unfair" (temporarily).

Part of my experiment is to see how it feels when Bitcoin Developers target your beliefs... so, all of this is to be expected and I do consider myself a Bitcoiner helping Bitcoin.

Y'all are just emotional people, programmable money may not be emotional, but the neckbeards most certainly are and even a little piss ant like me can help motivate this forward.  If Testnet could be raped, so can Bitcoin... I think raping it would be a huge mistake, vs seeing the market dying for itto express itself and molding your beliefs around the market, data, and what is best for Bitcoin.

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Quote from: gmaxwell on May 21, 2025, 01:59:13 AM

There is no goal for testnet

I didn't know decentralized currencies had goals at all.  I thought they just were.  

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If you want to talk peaceful on chat or on the phone or in real life, just let me know and we can make it happen.  I do a shit job of transmuting myself through my fingers on forums.

*That* is how gentleman agreements are reached at least with this gentleman.

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Any plans to even update Blockstreams Testnet explore?  If you have all this time and care so much, why not?  There isn't even a text warning on the page... that it's an old abandoned Testnet.

Actions speak louder than words:  https://blockstream.info/testnet/

If we are going to sell Testnet out every week, y'all need to keep up.  V4 was last year.

Ignore, god, 2018?  Time flies.  My bad, I was wrong it seems.  I'll respect you "leaving" stuff.  Because I would pray for that in return as well, but regardless, my scratched out question still annoys the fuck out of me.

Even LukeJr's https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Testnet is out of date... I would fix it, but Midnightmagic stole my god damn Bitcoin deposit as an editor on the wiki.  

My testing should be none of your business.  Do you think private companies need approval from you or anyone else to do any type of testing?  Who are you? lol, like you asked me.

The goal of Testnet is to mimic Bitcoin as much as possible without appearing to have a long term store of value and potentially compete with Bitcoin.  Right or right(ish)? Perhaps everyone has a different goal and we all just naturally blend together(?).  It's fun.  None of us support child porn, but how much have you contributed to Bitcoin for them to stop using it?  I imagine it is MUCH less than what you are doing with these Bitcoin Testnet worthless nothingness.

Regardless of the goal, POW mimics Bitcoin... (changing that hurts, as displayed in real life at this moment).  And having a central authority could cause unexpected issues..  Of all types.  I think Bitcoin is beautiful because it doesn't do that, no one should download a Bitcoin client and get something centralized IMO.  

If your cool with that, why didn't you do it when you had Bitcoin commit access  2012-2015? You had access during the Testnet 3 launch, if anyone says a bug is left in and has purpose, that should be taken seriously... is you.

That is fucking wild dude.

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Furthermore, I fear that opens that central authority up to many other problems... What happens when one of those selected parties decides not to be so honest and cash out?  It happens in faucets ALL the time.  I *know* it is happening more than is currently visible, but I'm not an investigator and I don't want to make half statements.  That's one of the reasons I built my faucet, I got sick of people stealing my good-intended donations.

Further more, I line up buyiers 10 million coins @ 1 sat for .21 BTC.  Are we going to launch a testnet every week and how would that be handled?  I'm assuming privately and doing that privately with the intent of fucking "naive" enough users feels a lot like unjust enrichment.  Idk, but something feels *icky* and worry some.

Greg, there are turds in the punch bowel developing.  They are some of our biggest day traders... which I guess is good for me too, but it's gross.

Just keep that in mind when making stuff "unfair" (temporarily).

Part of my experiment is to see how it feels when Bitcoin Developers target your beliefs... so, all of this is to be expected and I do consider myself a Bitcoiner helping Bitcoin.

Y'all are just emotional people, programmable money may not be emotional, but the neckbeards most certainly are and even a little piss ant like me can help motivate this forward.  If Testnet could be raped, so can Bitcoin... I think raping it would be a huge mistake, vs seeing the market dying for it and molding your beliefs around the market, data, and what is best for Bitcoin.

My testing should be none of your business.  Do you think private companies need approval from you or anyone else to do privateany type of testing?  Who are you? lol, like you asked me.

The goal of Testnet is to mimic Bitcoin as much as possible without appearing to have a long term store of value and potentially compete with Bitcoin.  Right or right(ish)?

Regardless of the goal, POW mimics Bitcoin... (changing that hurts, as displayed in real life at this moment).  And having a central authority could cause unexpected issues..  Of all types.  I think Bitcoin is beautiful because it doesn't do that, no one should download a Bitcoin client and get something centralized IMO.  

If your cool with that, why didn't you do it when you had Bitcoin commit access  2012-2015? You had access during the Testnet 3 launch, if anyone says a bug is left in and has purpose, that should be taken seriously... is you.

That is fucking wild dude.

My testing should be none of your business.  Do you think private companies need approval from you or anyone else to do private testing?

The goal of Testnet is to mimic Bitcoin as much as possible without appearing to have a long term store of value and potentially compete with Bitcoin.  Right or right(ish)?

Regardless of the goal, POW mimics Bitcoin... (changing that hurts, as displayed in real life at this moment).  And having a central authority could cause unexpected issues..  Of all types.  I think Bitcoin is beautiful because it doesn't do that, no one should download a Bitcoin client and get something centralized IMO. 

If your cool with that, why didn't you do it when you had Bitcoin commit access  2012-2015?