Quote from: _act_ on May 22, 2025, 04:19:16 PM

Or you mean they use more than one alts to apply?

I was alluding to percentages regarding campaign managers enrolling alt-accounts, farmed accounts and purchased accounts on their own campaigns to cheat their employers.

Quote from: JeromeTash on May 22, 2025, 04:50:27 PM

For a reputable manager, it would be a very silly thing to do because if one is already earning from managing the campaign, why enroll alts? If the appetite for some sats is too much then why not use those alts to join other campaigns?

It's hard to tell or even suspect if there's any reputable manager who currently does such a thing.

I can vouch for two campaign managers I have worked with and one I have not worked with that would not conduct themselves in nefarious conduct. As for the others, I would not put it past them especially if they have a dubious past (and feedback that raises questions).

Quote from: BitMaxz on May 22, 2025, 05:41:54 PM

I believe for reputable members it is not worth it.
Maybe they will do it if they need some quick cash.

It would be within the realm of non-reputable managers.

Quote from: OgNasty on May 22, 2025, 06:04:22 PM

When I was made the campaign manager for a different website, I was given access to view IP addresses and all I can say is this community is MUCH smaller than people think it is. No idea if people do a better job masking their IPs here so they aren't discovered or if the administration just doesn't care... What I can say is that I was shocked at how many signature campaign participants were triple, even quadruple dipping in campaigns. This was back in like 2018, so I can only imagine it is worse now. Just be aware. Not just for signature campaigns but for attacks on members here as well. What looks like 10 people all having a beef against one person is more often than not a single unhinged user with too much time on their hands.

Several years ago members from one particular local board were creating havoc, complaining about not being selected for various campaigns and participating in merit abuse as well as other nefarious conduct. The next group that caused problems were a different local board members that create accounts to participate in merit abuse and join any giveaway/competition especially Pizza Day. They are in a rush to build up accounts and enroll them in campaigns.

As for the size of this community, you are absolutely right. It is not as big as people probably assume. If several industrial sized account farms were removed, the atmosphere would change for the better.

Quote from: yahoo62278 on May 22, 2025, 08:43:20 PM

@Jollygood, you don't normally make a topic without already thinking someone or multiple someone's in this topic are doing what you're thinking, so I am more curious of who you think is cheating. Your question also I feel needs to be split up into 2 parts.

Do you think Bounty managers are enrolling alts or have ever?

Do you think sig campaign managers are or have ever enrolled alts?

Bounty managers are a dime a dozen and mostly unknowns and I believe it is normal in their minds to enroll their alts. Even some of the more reputable managers in that space could be guilty, but I have no proof.

I won't comment on sig campaign managers without proof as it could be considered a pretty hot topic and dramafest waiting to happen. No need to open that can of worms at this time. Could it be happening, yes. is it, I don't know. I wouldn't rule it out.

I have a hard enough time posting 25-30 posts in a week on 1 account, couldn't imagine trying to make posts on multiple accounts.

You certainly know me well enough to make that assumption Grin

My question was about campaign managers (and more specific to certain campaign managers). I cannot recall when I even looked at the bounties board and would not consider them relevant as the problem would probably be at epidemic proportions there.

Quote from: examplens on May 22, 2025, 09:05:25 PM

It seems to me that Jollygood already has some managers in mind to participate in their campaigns.

There are currently several active and proven managers, I don't think any of them participate with their alt accounts in them. I am referring to the BTC signature campaign. Just imagine how absurd it would be if someone who runs 5 campaigns needs to write 150-200 posts. At the same time, many managers hire assistants to make it easier for them to manage campaigns.

If you look at the selection process of some campaign managers related to the criteria they apply which results in highly dubious accounts being enrolled in their campaigns, it clearly points to either gross negligence or cheating.

Quote from: YOSHIE on May 22, 2025, 09:53:39 PM

Quote from: JollyGood on May 22, 2025, 04:13:57 PM

Nevertheless, participate in the poll Grin

I can say the manager employs their Alt in the campaign they manage a percentage of 1-5%.

I once found a case like that.
Proof:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5187379.msg52550131#msg52550131

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5187379.msg52554800#msg52554800

But not all managers are greedy employing their Alt, only certain.

That is what I believe too, certain managers are enrolling alt-accounts (or farmed/purchased accounts) in their own campaigns to cheat their employers. I like the fact you added a percentage.