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Original archived Re: ⚠️SCAM⚠️ BC.game - refusing to pay $1.5m, switched jurisdiction to avoid paying
Scraped on 22/05/2025, 17:56:26 UTC
So, I'll divide this post into three sections of wall of texts: Preface, Disclaimer, and tl;dr. Feel free to skip to tl:dr.
Preface:
Upon reading this case thoroughly, and learning some details, I found myself torn and in a conflicted position as I learned something that might be a key information to this case that play crucial role and have huge magnitude of the case.
However, the nature from where I learned this information prevent me to share it with overseers the second I learned about it, as I am bound by my words where what's shared with me, either by player or by casino, of which done in private channel or strictly instructed to be kept private, for my eyes only, will be so.
And part that help me zeroing to this information were from what shared to me by the OP. Thus, I am restricted by my own vow of secrecy to keep it best I can, though it is conflicting and some [perhaps] see them as unethical to be kept under for-my-eyes-only and perceive me as a bad actor here as I keep it nonetheless.
However, in my defense, I have to stand by my code that what shared in private with me, stays private. I have to respect that words and should not violate them, as it is my "reputation" to other and future cases, my "modal" to see and understand cases in order to solve them, where players and casinos should be able to be assured and feel safe to share what they deemed need to stay private with me, and it'll stay that way no matter what.
Thus, my silence and absence as I mull over what to do and not to do.
Disclaimer:
What broke me from my internal debate was this:
Another thing caught my eye. Who wrote this email back in July 2024? If it was you, then who is writing these posts? The posts in this thread and that email aren't written by the same person.
That someone else somehow, by his own reason and logic, suspected that the person write this thread is not the same person as the player who write the email [namely: the player on BC with 1.5m case]. I'm not sure how and what prompt Pmalek come to this conclusion.
Mine though, came not long after I read the complaint on CG, [of which my mind can't help but draft itself list of questions I should address and get the answers of], that OP is from Indonesia, and the amount being disputed, 1,500,000 USD is a lot in USD, and at I guess about way lots in Indonesia, it's about billions of IDR, and I thought that's a huge amount and it must've been mentioned somewhere locally or internationally, not to mention the player involved in Curacao court.
Thus, idle hand as I waited for my contact, I googled to do my DD, assisted by some information OP gave me in private; his name. And this is where I stuck and bound by my own so-called "no-one and client privilege" ["no-one" as I don't want to that a specific lurker [I know you're reading this thread] weaponize it by saying I self-proclaim myself as "attorney" if I refer to the real term, "attorney-client privilege", so... "no-one" it is].
As Pmalek could guess that the writer here is not the same person as the player, I tried to re-trace and simulate my own DD, in other devices and in incognito [so we can be sure that the search history didn't affect the result], with information provided to public by OP himself, namely this:
OP's signature on his case on CG; Chandrabayu M. Put this in Google Indonesia, will bring this auto-suggestion:
And basically everyone could just find that info, it's there in public, ready for them to access.
So, disclaimer, this is not me breaching my confidentiality privilege I give to those who share private info with me. Anyone with curious mind and idle hand could zeroing into the same result.
tl:dr: OP, do you mind to confirm if this is you? It's an article from local news site, amongst other news article:
I need to use Google site-translate to convert it to English, but in short, Chandra Bayu M, was found guilty for bot trading, ML activity [in other article], and Ponzi scheme.
The Indonesian justice force find Chandra Bayu M as guilty and he's currently imprisoned, if I read and understand the situation correctly.
So, one simple question before we dive deeper into this finding and [after this tackled and cleared] dissect other points on CG, suppose they're still relevant: in a short yes or no, are talking with the person who own and create the BC account?
Preface:
Upon reading this case thoroughly, and learning some details, I found myself torn and in a conflicted position as I learned something that might be a key information to this case that play crucial role and have huge magnitude of the case.
However, the nature from where I learned this information prevent me to share it with overseers the second I learned about it, as I am bound by my words where what's shared with me, either by player or by casino, of which done in private channel or strictly instructed to be kept private, for my eyes only, will be so.
And part that help me zeroing to this information were from what shared to me by the OP. Thus, I am restricted by my own vow of secrecy to keep it best I can, though it is conflicting and some [perhaps] see them as unethical to be kept under for-my-eyes-only and perceive me as a bad actor here as I keep it nonetheless.
However, in my defense, I have to stand by my code that what shared in private with me, stays private. I have to respect that words and should not violate them, as it is my "reputation" to other and future cases, my "modal" to see and understand cases in order to solve them, where players and casinos should be able to be assured and feel safe to share what they deemed need to stay private with me, and it'll stay that way no matter what.
Thus, my silence and absence as I mull over what to do and not to do.
Disclaimer:
What broke me from my internal debate was this:
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Branislav the Casino Guru representative says that the casino showed him evidence of at least two other linked accounts. So, according to them, there could be four, five, or more... But like I said, this is not something anyone here can verify as true or false. Taking sides based on that information alone would be subjective. Another thing caught my eye. Who wrote this email back in July 2024? If it was you, then who is writing these posts? The posts in this thread and that email aren't written by the same person.
That someone else somehow, by his own reason and logic, suspected that the person write this thread is not the same person as the player who write the email [namely: the player on BC with 1.5m case]. I'm not sure how and what prompt Pmalek come to this conclusion.
Mine though, came not long after I read the complaint on CG, [of which my mind can't help but draft itself list of questions I should address and get the answers of], that OP is from Indonesia, and the amount being disputed, 1,500,000 USD is a lot in USD, and at I guess about way lots in Indonesia, it's about billions of IDR, and I thought that's a huge amount and it must've been mentioned somewhere locally or internationally, not to mention the player involved in Curacao court.
Thus, idle hand as I waited for my contact, I googled to do my DD, assisted by some information OP gave me in private; his name. And this is where I stuck and bound by my own so-called "no-one and client privilege" ["no-one" as I don't want to that a specific lurker [I know you're reading this thread] weaponize it by saying I self-proclaim myself as "attorney" if I refer to the real term, "attorney-client privilege", so... "no-one" it is].
As Pmalek could guess that the writer here is not the same person as the player, I tried to re-trace and simulate my own DD, in other devices and in incognito [so we can be sure that the search history didn't affect the result], with information provided to public by OP himself, namely this:
OP's signature on his case on CG; Chandrabayu M. Put this in Google Indonesia, will bring this auto-suggestion:
And basically everyone could just find that info, it's there in public, ready for them to access.
So, disclaimer, this is not me breaching my confidentiality privilege I give to those who share private info with me. Anyone with curious mind and idle hand could zeroing into the same result.
tl:dr: OP, do you mind to confirm if this is you? It's an article from local news site, amongst other news article:
I need to use Google site-translate to convert it to English, but in short, Chandra Bayu M, was found guilty for bot trading, ML activity [in other article], and Ponzi scheme.
The Indonesian justice force find Chandra Bayu M as guilty and he's currently imprisoned, if I read and understand the situation correctly.
So, one simple question before we dive deeper into this finding and [after this tackled and cleared] dissect other points on CG, suppose they're still relevant: in a short yes or no, are talking with the person who own and create the BC account?