Quote from: Kavelj22 on May 23, 2025, 11:59:06 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on May 23, 2025, 08:38:20 PM

Quote from: Kavelj22 on May 15, 2025, 05:59:15 PM

I don't like having children. It's easy and doesn't require much philosophizing and interpretation. For this reason, most of my relationships with women have failed to develop into a formal relationship. For me, marriage is all about finding a true life partner to share our ups and downs, and that's enough. Just as I don't like to be tied down to someone who is too attached to her family, I also don't like having children who might one day tire me out or whose rights I might have neglected. Don't call me a "pessimist," because I know circumstances change, and what's best for me today isn't guaranteed tomorrow, no matter how many guarantees there are. These are personal beliefs and preferences, and unfortunately, it doesn't seem like there are women who share my perspective, and most, if not all, consider marriage as a means of procreation.

Are there women who share this perspective? Where or how can I find one? (I know this is bitcointalk not tinder hhh). Why should the concept of commitment extend to procreation as if it were a natural outcome when we are the ones who decide that?

Btw, i live in arabic country with conservative culture. Marriage and having children is a must for everybody and people don't even dare to discuss such topics. What do you think guys?

I think you are a responsible person. My kids all died I am 68 my wife is 69 so kids are not happening.

Being with my wife since our 1986 marriage has had its share of good and bad.

We wanted kids

We were expecting kids 3 times

They all died in miscarriages.

I have zero issue with you not wanting children.

Anyone that thinks you are immature or not ready does not know that for sure.

But your country if it is Arab and muslim wants kids to be born.

You will likely need to leave it as if you decide to stick to your guns and do not make kids people will think less of you.

Good luck in your decision whatever it is.

May Allah allow you to do what it is you have to do.

This is one of the most wise and mature answers I've read on this topic, demonstrating great maturity and life experience. I know you Philip as an active member on the forum and always read your posts, but this is the first time I've learned you're in your seventies. I'm so sorry for the loss of your three children. I believe it's one of the hardest things anyone can experience in their life, and I appreciate your patience and your wife's acceptance of your fate with a big heart. Life has never been fair.
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I share many points with those who don't want to have children (Anti-Natalism), as they believe it's unfair to bring more children into the world when there are still children in need of care.
I also have my own opinion, which is consistent with my personal circumstances, as I cannot guarantee a good life for my son in my current circumstances. Yes, I have a job, have my own home, and a steady income, but the general situation is not conducive to anything. The situation in Arab countries has become somewhat frightening due to political dictatorship and the spread of wars and armed conflicts everywhere. I cannot guarantee my son a good living condition in my country, and I cannot leave for a better place.

Those of you who see the war in Gaza and how people are dying from hunger, lack of medicine, and the lack of hygiene facilities, including toilets, bathrooms, and even drinking water, do you think Gaza is a suitable place to give birth and raise children? I believe it is a crime for someone to give birth under such conditions. Unfortunately, births have not stopped, and people are having sex under the bombardment, giving birth to babies who die a few days later under the rubble. I am not a resident of Gaza, but it is a good example to put the concept of procreation under the microscope of reason and morality, even for once.

Gaza is so sad and the real sin is nice climate a beautiful place made into a hell by human sins.

I have watched wars happen since then1960s it amazes me that people kill so much and are so violent.

I spent 5 years in the navy . I saw all kinds of people all over the world . It would be nice to see people be less harsh to each other.

But it is more likely I will hit 2 solom blocks mining tonight Grin

Please take care.and I hope things work out for you.