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Quote from: As-Soon-As on May 26, 2025, 11:17:40 PM

Therefore, when there is a dip and instability in Bitcoin, the fear of investors to invest increases,

I also disagree with you here, because real investors don't fear nor panic when bitcoin dip or when the price is not stable rather they see it dips as opportunities to accumulate aggressively and hold, only those who there focus is on short term investment fear and Panic when bitcoin dip or price is not stable.

I continue to be surprised that so many guys consider that there is some purpose in increasing their level of aggressiveness based on bitcoin price dips rather than figuring out their level of aggressiveness from their level of discretionary income and the strength of their cashflow management.

Sure a guy could purposefully choose to hold back some money for buying dips and he can have some plans for buying dips at various price points, if such price points were to happen, yet I would consider it not to be so common that some surprise dip levels end up happening in which there would be needs to increase aggressiveness based on such price dips.. especially since if a guy is already buying bitcoin regularly and on a weekly basis, then he is not necessarily going to have extra money available for buying on dips except the money that he had set aside, and then if he is using his set aside money to buy on BTC price dips, then I am wondering how he could still have extra money? The only way that he has extra money (unless he had surprisingly received some extra money) is that he had been setting aside even more money, which is not any sign of aggressiveness but instead a sign of lack of aggressiveness, and even inclinations to gamble rather than to invest.

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Quote from: As-Soon-As on May 26, 2025, 11:17:40 PM

Quote from: ejikeme24 on May 26, 2025, 10:19:05 PM

though I could imagine how long it will take before they can be able to accumulate half of the value of bitcoin or getting to the status of overaccumulation this will take (probably 50 to hundred years if I'm not mistaken) And majority of this guys can give up along the line probably due to old age or the unknown death" and I'm about to agree with you on the fact that investing with $2 seems to be a waste of time because after all the time they have wasted so far and it happens that they couldn't get to the status of overaccumulation, in this case it becomes a waste of time, Now I know that is good to run a race that we know we can easily win.

If the price of Bitcoin is always going up, investors will never be able to participate in investment,

Where did you draw this conclusion from? I think at this point it's best you speak for yourself because I know that real investors invest in bitcoin at all market conditions. Wether the price is always going up or coming down. So using a strong terms like "investors will NEVER be able participate in investment when price are going up is a lie. It simply shows that you don't really know what long term investment is all about. And you are someone who claims to be investing in bitcoin through the DCA method, and yet you are saying if the price keeps going up that investors will never be able to participate in investment. Now my question to you is, do you really know what the DCA method is all about?

He seems to be mixing up DCA and buying on the dip.

Sure, it is possible to mix DCA with buying on the dip, yet that is a different strategy than a pure DCA that does not necessarily account for changes in the BTC price. Within a strict DCA approach, there is a bit of presumption of not being able to know the short-to-medium BTC price direction, even though there is a bit of a presumption that over the longer term there is decently good likelihood that the BTC price will continue to slope upwardly.. .so that with the passage of time, the more and more likely the accumulated BTC will be profitable - even though at the same time, such long term profitability is not guaranteed.

Quote from: Justbillywitt on Today at 09:38:39 AM

Quote from: As-Soon-As on May 26, 2025, 11:17:40 PM

because when the price of Bitcoin is low and a dip is created, investors immediately start buying.

This are not the characteristics of long term investors, what you described here typically fits the profile of traders.
As investors don't just wait for the dip alone to buy bitcoin only day traders does that.

Buying dips can be part of any investor's chosen investment strategy, yet he is running risks if he waits for dips that do not end up coming... and surely no investor is prepared for UP if he has not sufficiently bought BTC.. so in that sense, it would seem that any investor should make sure that he is buying regularly, persistently, consistently, ongoingly and perhaps even aggressively in order to prepare for UP...

Sure, there can be some preparations for down, such as buying dips, even though buying dips seems like it should be a supplementary approach to BTC buying rather than a principle approach, since sometimes the dips might not happen to the extent that any person might set up his dip buying terms.

Quote from: Justbillywitt on Today at 09:38:39 AM

Quote from: As-Soon-As on May 26, 2025, 11:17:40 PM

Therefore, when there is a dip and instability in Bitcoin, the fear of investors to invest increases,

This is another lie that I have to disagree with you as well. Investors utilise the instabilities in the market to their own advantage by continuously accumulating at a discounted prices. I think you are refering to newbies. Newbies are usually the ones that develop phobia in this kind of situation.

It does seem that guys who are buying regularly might get excited rather than discouraged or fearful of dips, and perceptions of BTC price moves can be a product of preparation. Any of us should be buying bitcoin within our discretionary income and with money that we can afford to lose in the event that the bitcoin investment does not move in a positive price direction after our investment into it. Some guys might become afraid of dips if they do not have confidence in the investment and/or if they might have had overinvested with money that they cannot afford to lose.

Guys who employ stronger cashflow management practices would be less likely to get emotional about BTC price moves, whether they are going up or down, yet it still tends to be difficult to completely remove emotions that may well be felt when the BTC price moves a lot in one direction or another.

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Quote from: Lidger on May 26, 2025, 05:24:14 PM

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We should not only think about the price of Bitcoin, I have been watching the Bitcoin market for more than two years. So it has become more popular and expensive in the present than in the past, so over time, those who were related to Bitcoin investment have been successful. So I want to say that we should not look at the price and popularity of Bitcoin, we have to participate in Bitcoin investment, then we can also move towards success with the increase in the price of Bitcoin.
In the past, the price of Bitcoin was very low, but those who could not invest in Bitcoin are regretting it today, and now those who are disappointed with the price of Bitcoin and do not participate in investment will also regret it in the future. So regardless of any aspect, we must participate in Bitcoin investment, then we can move towards success over time and with the increase in the price of Bitcoin.

Of course in the past 2 or even 3 years a person would have had been very profitable to have had been aggressively investing into bitcoin throughout that whole time. All of their investments into bitcoin would have had paid off, and that is part of the dynamics that have existed in bitcoin over several periods in which the BTC price is going up, and surely exists in bitcoin during ATH periods like we are experiencing right now. There have also been periods in which there have been several years of price corrections. We should be judging the totality of bitcoin merely on a short period of time, even though surely it is good for guys to get through 2-3 years or more and to be continuing to invest into bitcoin.

We also know that there are some folks who are just coming to bitcoin right now, and so the newest of folks still have to decide whether to get started or to wait, and I still think that getting started is important and ongoing buying of bitcoin for at least 4 years is likely important too.

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Quote from: virasog on Today at 05:52:43 PM

Yes, those who are waiting for the bitcoin price and then they can buy, would never buy because on every drop they become more fearful and think that it may drop more. If anyone hasn't had any positions in Bitcoin, I think they should buy with 25% of the portfolio now and then buy more on every dip. This is because in case the price pumps from here and doesn't give a pullback, the person won't be left waiting. Also, I would not feel nervous buying near 110K because I know that this is not the ultimate top for this cycle and for years to come, it is like buying under 50K Wink

I wouldn't wait I would just buy and hold. Because why would I wait? We don't know if it's top or not. Even if it is top we will see higher in the future. So just dip in and buy whatever you can.
Hold as long as you don't need to withdraw and buy more as long as you have spare money to invest. There is no other option. Buy buy and buy more until you have decent amount. Then you can wait and enjoy higher prices with as much as Bitcoin you have in your hand.

I would imagine that anyone who has been in bitcoin for less than 4 years should be buying bitcoin ongoingly, persistently, consistently, regularly and perhaps even aggressively for at least 4 years without even thinking about prices. It is difficult to know of cases in which normal people would be able to get enough or more than enough bitcoin within less than 4 years, unless they are reallocating from some other investment(s) - otherwise if they are merely investing from their discretionary income then it likely takes more than 8 years to get to a decent place in regards to bitcoin investment size.