Quote from: d5000 on June 04, 2025, 11:25:42 PM

Quote from: btc-freedom-money on June 04, 2025, 02:08:08 PM

For example when you say "If.." as if you don't know if that is how it works and then making some wild guesses like "if that's how it works in bitcoin then it must be the same in ethereum".

I think what dumpsterhawk meant that your privacy depends on your transacting behavior if using SPV clients, be it Bitcoin or Ethereum. And that's also my understanding of the matter. It depends obviously on the tech used in the client software, but the challenges for privacy on ETH and BTC are the same.

Yes, thank you! I was just merely making a condition statement, not showing my uncertainty. If you are using Bitcoin in a way that you can be tracked, then using ETH in the same way will also get you tracked. In this example, SPV clients.

Quote from: btc-freedom-money on June 04, 2025, 02:08:08 PM

VPNs are easy to trace. Anyone can just enter a simple command into their terminal to find out which VPN provider the IP belongs to. Switching servers don't change the VPN provider unless you switch to a server belonging to a different VPN provider. This was also just meant to be a simple example.

That is not what it means to trace someone in this context. You can check that my IP links to a VPN provider, heck there are even automated systems that block VPNs based on lists. Does that enable you to trace me? No.

Quote from: btc-freedom-money on June 04, 2025, 02:08:08 PM

Quote from: dumpsterhawk on May 27, 2025, 04:38:52 PM

The same penalties that you have when you use Bitcoin without a node. Probably worse though, because most ETH wallet providers are centralized companies collecting data. With Bitcoin there are plenty of nodes to choose to when connecting with your wallet such as Electrum. You can actively switch between them.

Not sure what you mean but with bitcoin you definitely need your own node.

I am saying that using Bitcoin with a SPV client like Electrum is orders of magnitude better than using ETH wallet providers which are almost exclusively all run by centralized companies. They collect data for profit. The nodes to which SPV wallets connect only do so if they are malicious / spying nodes. They don't collect by default.

Quote from: btc-freedom-money on June 04, 2025, 02:08:08 PM

You should explain why otherwise I have to use my imagination and guess what you are talking about.

Centrally run by a foundation. It has a leader. Running a full node on inexpensive hardware is impossible. Syncing a node without a hacky fast-mode is almost near impossible without expensive hardware. Wallet providers are centralized companies. Encourages terrible practices such as extension wallets, and the list goes on and on.

Quote from: btc-freedom-money on June 04, 2025, 02:08:08 PM

Quote from: dumpsterhawk on May 27, 2025, 04:38:52 PM

It is not an advantage, most of those mixers are worse by design than centralized Bitcoin mixers.

Again you don't make any real argument here. You are just giving an opinion and I have to use my fantasy what you are talking about.

Your lack of knowledge does not make my statement wrong. How you respond to it reveals to me the level of your knowledge on the subject. Doing some basic research either into mixer designs or de-anonimization research paper would quickly confirm what I said. You seem intent on promoting the shitcoin ETH and putting it on a pedestal when it fact it should go into a trash bin.

Quote from: btc-freedom-money on June 04, 2025, 02:08:08 PM

Quote from: dumpsterhawk on May 27, 2025, 04:38:52 PM

They don't have the liquidity or volume of transactions to be better.

They have more than enough volume. Another benefit is you can mix stable coins which can be great during bear season or a longer lasting choppy market.

No, they don't. Even with Tornado cash which was the largest you needed to wait many days to get a small anonymity to mix large amounts.

Quote from: btc-freedom-money on June 04, 2025, 02:08:08 PM

Bitcoin is very difficult to have privacy in so most people are going to be denonymized.

Maybe it is time to stop spreading anti Bitcoin lies in favor or a centralized shitcoin like ETH. Lucky for you that there are no consequences here for lying I guess. Enjoy.

Quote from: btc-freedom-money on June 04, 2025, 02:08:08 PM

Quote from: dumpsterhawk on May 27, 2025, 04:38:52 PM

Bitcoin does it better, considering that you are not likely able to run an ETH node or use ETH over TOR.

You are wrong because you assumed I was right when I said you need lots of ETH to run a node. To run a validator you need lots of ETH but to run a node it's very similar to running a bitcoin node. So anyone can easily run an ethereum node for the privacy and security beneifits.

But it seems like you can't have an eth node on TOR though so that's a big and valid downside. But if you really believe that VPNs are great for privacy then that's not a problem. It's only a problem if you want tor.

Wrong. Running an ETH node on home hardware is near impossible unless you skip validating a lot of the data. Very decentralized and security oriented. Roll Eyes