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Here's an idea why don't you just raffle them off for free to forum members? I mean how can you have a fair distribution when you bought them all and what kind of fucked up mint would sell them to you anyhow this is a bunch of bullshit.

Do the right thing and destroy them please..... Roll Eyes

Also why does the stacks Bowers listing show withdrawn?

Good idea. I honestly would have considered that initially before all the hate occurred. Unfortunately, at this time, only people who like their existence will be able to possess them.

The right thing to do has been done. - Respectfully

The right thing to do has been done - Stacks removing the listing

These coins were held for a year and released as a single sale on stacks to try to enrich your pockets off of someone else’s work. As a proud non-fellow VIPer, it amazes me that tenured members of this forum purchase any of your coins as your integrity, or lack there of, has been publicly displayed. Make some cool designs, exploit your own “company” but just cuz your sales are lacking doesn’t mean you should steal someone else’s minted goods and then try to maximize the profit on them. You are not about this physical collectible community, only about profits for yourself.

Kenny Gordan - Never cared for your opinion. Stacks removing the listing I'm sure was due to peoples false accusations - something you are proving to be good at 🤔

Please notice forum… if you ever bought a single VIP item, you are at risk of being doxxed by this douche. Not that I care as I’m a minnow, but some of you rich guys may not want your name out there.

Complete lack of forum etiquette - probably kept copies of his keys. 100% would not trust this guy.

The only thing that was true from your previous statement “ I’m a minnow”

You're doing yourself no favors by doxxing and actually more harm as you are alienating existing and future customers. You are also tarnishing your brand and devaluing your products which is going to hurt you and existing hodlers. Childish put downs down don't help either.

Those who threw a fit (Yoda) and publicly stated they would never support VIP Bitcoins were never going to. There “loss” of support was never a loss. You on the other hand I hold high respect for. You may be right, I could do better to avoid childish put-downs. It’s much easier said than done. If you only knew the conversations I’ve had personally between Kenny you may understand why I denounce him.

A lot here are "battle" tested vets in this space, not counting the OGs and Uncs. There are certain things that set off red flags. Yoda was the one who brought the ColdKey scam to light. I've had many transactions with Yoda, even met him in person, and looked him in the eye- good guy by me. I've also had dealings with PreciousMetapsICT, can't say anything bad about him either. But what purpose does doxxing serve? Most here only know each other by forum name and not government name. And to doxx someone without consent or permission crosses a line, unless someone has stolen explicitly or implicitly.

I would happily meet members of our community in person as well. I understand that some of my actions at times border on red flag behavior (I'd call them yellow flags because they fall in a gray area). Even a broken clock is right twice a day. I’ve had transactions with Yoda as well, in terms of speaking with him and collaborating to meet new people. He actually introduced me to some individuals that I hold in very high regard, and I have conducted thousands of dollars in transactions with them. I hold nothing against Yoda personally. I tried for about a year to engage him and include him in my project. He was overall negative throughout that entire time regarding me and the project. Kenny, on the other hand, is blunt. I don’t care to deal with him. He seems to enjoy being a prick, or at least that's how he came across in my conversations with him. He crossed the line when he accused me of stealing.

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Quote from: owlcatz on May 27, 2025, 06:46:54 PM

Here's an idea why don't you just raffle them off for free to forum members? I mean how can you have a fair distribution when you bought them all and what kind of fucked up mint would sell them to you anyhow this is a bunch of bullshit.

Do the right thing and destroy them please..... Roll Eyes

Also why does the stacks Bowers listing show withdrawn?

Good idea. I honestly would have considered that initially before all the hate occurred. Unfortunately, at this time, only people who like their existence will be able to possess them.

The right thing to do has been done. - Respectfully

The right thing to do has been done - Stacks removing the listing

These coins were held for a year and released as a single sale on stacks to try to enrich your pockets off of someone else’s work. As a proud non-fellow VIPer, it amazes me that tenured members of this forum purchase any of your coins as your integrity, or lack there of, has been publicly displayed. Make some cool designs, exploit your own “company” but just cuz your sales are lacking doesn’t mean you should steal someone else’s minted goods and then try to maximize the profit on them. You are not about this physical collectible community, only about profits for yourself.

Kenny Gordan - Never cared for your opinion. Stacks removing the listing I'm sure was due to peoples false accusations - something you are proving to be good at 🤔

Please notice forum… if you ever bought a single VIP item, you are at risk of being doxxed by this douche. Not that I care as I’m a minnow, but some of you rich guys may not want your name out there.

Complete lack of forum etiquette - probably kept copies of his keys. 100% would not trust this guy.

The only thing that was true from your previous statement “ I’m a minnow”

You're doing yourself no favors by doxxing and actually more harm as you are alienating existing and future customers. You are also tarnishing your brand and devaluing your products which is going to hurt you and existing hodlers. Childish put downs down don't help either.

Those who threw a fit (Yoda) and publicly stated they would never support VIP Bitcoins were never going to. There “loss” of support was never a loss. You on the other hand I hold high respect for. You may be right, I could do better to avoid childish put-downs. It’s much easier said than done. If you only knew the conversations I’ve had personally between Kenny you may understand why I denounce him.

Bro… the lies don’t stop with you. I sent you a total of 8 messages where I offered advice

“ If you want to bring people in, do it the right way. You have a talent with marketing. Use it to build your brand instead of grifting. Starting to be a lot like (I don’t doxx people) which isn’t a good thing. If you’ve sold almost 500 silver coins already then you’re already successful and the scammy Facebook group doesn’t matter. I’m in the space, not a snowballs chance in hell you got 300+ people to buy coins”

“ I also don’t say you were shady. I said it looks scammy”(in reference to him purchasing fake Facebook members for his VIP group)

“ Just stay away from the sales tactics. Make good products and people will buy them”

And the last message I sent you was…

“And please don’t update every post with 1x sold“

So please provide receipts for our conversations… besides trying to work a trade and you trying to sell stuff, there’s not shit there.

You're hot and cold, blunt, and quick to jump to conclusions. There are only a handful of people that I remember for criticizing me when I announced my project, and you were among them. You did change your tune when I put an exorbitant amount of energy into it, but then again, here you are. (All the good I did means nothing.) The only things you tend to point out are the negatives.

If you look at our history - Most everything that’s been stated by you in regards to me had a sharp edge to it. - Your claim for innocence in this regard is weak