Quote from: Vod on June 07, 2025, 11:23:42 PM

What type of material do you intend to house the system and the storage options? It will need at minimum a USB port to transfer information and a way to take a sample to unlock, right? If you have figured that out, you'll have a product, because the software part can be developed in a few weeks by a DNA company.

Great question - and it points to the heart of the physical layer challenge.

Storage Material:
The DNA itself can be stored in a variety of encapsulated forms:

- Silica beads (like those used in academic long-term preservation)
- Glass ampoules, vacuum-sealed
- Or even polymer-encapsulated capsules

These are chemically stable, compact, and proven to withstand extreme conditions (heat, UV, oxidation). The goal is to create a medium that's not just durable, but also independent of contemporary electronics.

No USB Port Needed
There’s a key difference here: This isn’t a live hardware device like a cold wallet. It’s deep cold storage - think of it more like a time capsule.

Data isn’t read via USB. Retrieval is a multi-step process involving:

- DNA extraction (if encapsulated)
- Sequencing via standard DNA sequencers (e.g., nanopore or Illumina)
- Running decoding software to reconstruct the key from sequence data

This workflow assumes long-horizon storage - retrieval is not meant to be routine. It’s built for scenarios where longevity and resilience matter more than speed or ease of access.

BTW. Home DNA Reading? Already seems possible.
Yes - compact DNA sequencers you can use outside a lab already exist. One of the best-known is the Oxford Nanopore MinION - a USB-powered device about the size of a smartphone that lets you sequence DNA in real time.

While it still requires additional tools (like a mini-lab setup to prepare DNA samples, e.g. Bento Lab) and some basic wet-lab skills, it works - and it’s already been used in the Arctic, on ships, and in remote field conditions.

Right now, it's still niche — mainly used by researchers, biohackers, and universities.
But the pace of miniaturization is rapid.

In a few decades?
Devices like this will likely be something you can pick up at a pawn shop or bundled with your phone — just like oscilloscopes or spectrum analyzers that once filled entire labs.

DNA as a data medium isn’t science fiction - it’s engineering. And it’s already happening.

On the Software Side:
You're right that a basic encoder could be built relatively quickly. But building robust software that handles real-world biological edge cases (mutations, strand loss, synthesis artifacts) - and does so with full client-side key security - is non-trivial.

My focus is on error-corrected encoding tuned to biological realities and minimal-cost synthesis. That’s where most existing tools fall short or over-engineer for non-security use cases (e.g., archival of public data, not encrypted secrets).

The real “product” here isn’t a gadget. It’s a protocol and standard for turning digital secrets into biologically resilient artifacts.

Happy to go deeper on any of those layers if you’re curious.

Quote from: ABCbits on Today at 09:51:39 AM

I may be overly skeptical, but recently i see more thread about new project that
1. Appears to be written by AI/chatbot.
2. Showing Bitcoin address for support/access.
3. Show little/no contact and legal details.

Quote from: KarmaHODL on June 07, 2025, 09:54:53 PM

🧠 Why DNA?
Because it’s arguably the only medium that has already proven it can preserve meaningful information for thousands of years (see: ancient genomes).

Considering human usually live below 100 years, why should be choose your product over other storage option that is easier to reach and have fairly long lifespan? For example, M-Disc (up to 1000 years) or magnetic tape (up to 50 years).

Thanks for raising this - skepticism is 100% valid and welcome in a space that should prioritize proof over hype.

Human vs Machine Authorship:
This post was written by me - with the help of a language model to clarify tone and structure. I’m an engineer, not a copywriter. So yes, it reads cleanly. That’s not a red flag - that’s a tool being used well.

Support Address Transparency:
The Bitcoin address is there for anyone who already understands and supports the idea - not as a marketing funnel. There’s no token, no presale, no promises. Just open-source R&D you can watch evolve.

Why not M-Disc or Tape?
M-Disc and magnetic tape are both excellent for medium-term cold storage. But they're still:

- Electronics-dependent
- Vulnerable to obsolescence (try finding a M-Disc reader in 2075)
- Require ongoing format migrations every few decades

DNA, on the other hand:
- Is already readable with general-purpose biotech tools
- Has no moving parts or device dependencies
- Can last thousands of years (we literally read Neanderthal DNA)
- Shrinks an entire Bitcoin backup to a grain-of-sand-sized molecule

This isn’t meant to replace daily wallets or even typical cold storage. It’s for generational custody - inheritance, vaults, deep-time backups.
If you value sovereignty for your heirs as much as yourself, you’ll want options that go beyond today’s formats.

I appreciate your skepticism - it’s part of building something worth trusting.

Quote from: satscraper on Today at 06:43:11 PM

Quote from: KarmaHODL on Today at 03:42:11 PM

you would have noticed that the highly specialized teams you mentioned already exist and I intend to collaborate with them. I even listed the company names.

They definitely exist ^{web is full of relevant references}. Saying that you "intend to collaborate with them"means nothing as the real issue is whether they’d actually want to collaborate with you.

You came here begging for money without even revealing who you really are. No one is going to give money to someone completely anonymous. Money requires transparency.

Still I believe you are just fishing for crypto here.

Quote from: KarmaHODL on Today at 03:42:11 PM

I will answer the rest of the questions from the more serious forum members above your post this evening.

Answer first on the following key questions : Who exactly are you, and what field do you claim to have expertise in?.

P.S. I had a quick look on you history and got feeling that you are just "AI-milker".^{Go easy on it} Grin

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I respect that you're asking for accountability. Let me answer directly and on the record, for anyone else reading:

Who I Am:
I’m an independent software engineer and researcher with experience in applied cryptography and a strong interest in bioinformatics.

I’m not a molecular biologist - that’s precisely why I’m seeking collaboration with synthesis and sequencing partners. I'm not reinventing wet-lab protocols; I'm building encoding and client-side tooling designed to integrate with them.

On “AI-milking”:
If using LLMs to structure technical content or draft initial documentation is "milking AI", then yes - I use modern tools. Just like I use a compiler instead of writing machine code by hand. That doesn’t make the project fake - it makes the workflow more efficient.

On Funding:
No one is being asked to donate blindly. I stated clearly:

I’m self-funding development and early research, but… opening up to early-stage support.

There’s no token, no false scarcity, no roadmap hype. Just open, verifiable progress. Anyone is free to ignore the address or wait until more is published. Skepticism is encouraged.

Transparency
I’m protecting my personal data - not because I’m hiding something, but because doxxing is a real risk in early-stage crypto R&D.

I appreciate serious questions. You’re free to keep watching, or move on.