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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]
by
DaRude
on 08/06/2025, 17:19:30 UTC
You're not supposed to say the quiet part out loud. But yes, I agree that that was the plan by Boris and initial US delegation to Ukraine with their cookies, get the slavs to fight each other. What i don't get is Ukrainian politicians, are they in on this and willingly sacrificing their people, or are they really so incompetent that they don't see that they're just being used?

We do all realize what the military based conclusion of Ukraine vs Russia means though, right? The weakest links in Russia were always financial (sanctions) and political (isolation) if the hope is now to win Russia militarily then a blind sees the outcome.

It's a shame really, Ukraine had an option, even supported by US, to end this but they're now forced to really go "to the last Ukrainian" Cry




If Crimean Bridge gets completely destroyed Russia most likey also has a Civil War to deal with, with the Crimea nation/ Crimea native people.
Civil War is not fought with iskander and nukes.
https://x.com/qirimlia
If anyone thinks there will be peace with a ethnically Russian Crimea, lives in fantasy world.





As of 2021 76,4% of people in Crimea were Russian, 12,7% Crimean Tatars  and 7,7% Ukrainians guess what happened to the demographics since then, but keep peddling hope to get just a bit more souls for busification to the front lines. Plus you do realize that the bridge is not the only path to Crimea now, and Russia has a path over land where they're even building train tracks or facts don't really matter to you in your search for more souls?

Nope, what I have said is that Trump has reached that conclusion, not that it is my idea, nor my desired outcome nor that it came from anywhere. What I did say is that the Ruzzian brainwashing and actitude towards all the surrounding nationalities drives a violent and inhuman behaviour based on a supremacist concept. I find it amusing that Ruzzia call Nazis here and there so happily, when they have all the characteristics of a Nazi government.

Look, if you think all this came from Boris (and I am not going to defend this guy), then why did Ruzzia just followed through to the "trap"? May it be that they got it wrong? That Ukraine was not so easy? Explanation: see just above.

But that is not something that can be changed quickly here and now, so if Ruzzia can only accept an inconditional surrender... well, there seems to be war for a few more years. Again, stating facts, not my wishes.

I think that the next step for Ukraine is similar to the last step: make sure this costs billions in damage there where it hurts.

BTW apparenty the lower price of oil is driving lower sign-off fees for new soldiers. This is something quite interesting.

So US went from Biden "we will Stand With Ukraine 'For as Long as it Takes'" to "let them keep on fighting for a while" and that's passing Russian diplomacy 101 test in your mind, and totally not distancing themselves away from conflict?

The use of soft power is obviously a preferred method but make no illusions, if soft power is not achieving it's goals all global powers will switch to hard power if it concerns their national security/existential threat, as US has proven so many times.

Everyone saw how US was changing governments around the world (spring revolutions), huge failure on Russia was their naivety, they clearly didn't expect US to orchestrate the coup of democratically elected president on their border in Ukraine. Can you imagine how much different the world would be only if Yanukovych would be able to serve out the rest of his term for just 352 more days? And perhaps a country could've then voted for another president if they wanted to. Russia's second failure was underestimating the degree the west pumped Ukraine with intelligence and weapons (supposedly the whole Kyiv in 3 days cliche) but Russia was able to step back, recover from those mistakes, and now move this into war of attrition where Russia clearly has an advantage. "West" professionally executed the coup with the cookies, secretly over saturated Ukraine with weapons to withstand initial Russian attack, and masterfully manipulated the population of Ukraine so initially there were lines of volunteers to go to the front, but they failed miserable by overestimating the effect of their sanctions. So both sides made mistakes, but letting Russia recover and move this conflict on their terms into war of attrition is a fatal mistake. Now Trump is pulling US out and Europe put themselves in a corner and didn't grasp the last safety rope Trump threw them.

White House Quietly Pressures Senate to Water Down Russia Sanctions -WSJ  Roll Eyes