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Google AI says it is possible using merkle trees.
Clarification: real users said, that it is possible, and a lot of AIs just repeat their content. But as usual, there is some hallucination in that.Yes but AI can help explain or translate the highly technical language in a way non-coders can grasp.
I should warn you I'm not a coder so I rarely visit the technical discussion part of the forum.
Taking a handful of courses on UNIX,LINUX, computer networking in college is the extent of my technical knowledge.
And I probably forgot a lot of it by now. I run a bitcoin node on an old spare computer but that doesn't require much
if any coding knowledge.
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The Merkle proof only verifies the presence of the transaction within the block, not the identity of the sender or receiver.
Which means, that the proof is incomplete, and this is how you can tell, if something is just some AI hallucination, or if it was written by a real human. AI can tell you, that you can just verify some hash, without looking into hashed content. Real cryptographer would tell you instead, how to verify the data behind that hash,
without having to reveal it.
Incomplete, yes. But there may be other means to link the transaction to the identity of sender or receiver.
Maybe that's better than nothing but I could be completely wrong.
Also, if you would be really interested about the details, then you would visit the links, which were shared by real humans:
It is possible to prove that you own a UTXO of certain amount without revealing UTXO details using one of these methods:
1. Anonymous usage tokens from curve trees
2. taproot-ringsig
3. OutputZero
1. Anonymous usage tokens from curve trees
2. taproot-ringsig
3. OutputZero
I appreciate the technical links but I would have to run it through AI before having any hope of understanding it.
Original archived Re: Proof of reserves without giving up on privacy
Scraped on 08/06/2025, 19:47:12 UTC
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Google AI says it is possible using merkle trees.
Clarification: real users said, that it is possible, and a lot of AIs just repeat their content. But as usual, there is some hallucination in that.Yes but AI can help explain or translate the highly technical language in a way non-coders can grasp.
I should warn you I'm not a coder so rarely visit the technical discussion part of the forum.
Taking a handful of courses on UNIX,LINUX, computer networking in college is the extent of my technical knowledge.
And I probably forgot a lot of it by now. I run a bitcoin node on an old spare computer but that doesn't require much
if any coding knowledge.
Quote
The Merkle proof only verifies the presence of the transaction within the block, not the identity of the sender or receiver.
Which means, that the proof is incomplete, and this is how you can tell, if something is just some AI hallucination, or if it was written by a real human. AI can tell you, that you can just verify some hash, without looking into hashed content. Real cryptographer would tell you instead, how to verify the data behind that hash,
without having to reveal it.
Incomplete, yes. But there may be other means to link the transaction to the identity of sender or receiver.
Maybe better than nothing but I could be completely wrong.
Also, if you would be really interested about the details, then you would visit the links, which were shared by real humans:
It is possible to prove that you own a UTXO of certain amount without revealing UTXO details using one of these methods:
1. Anonymous usage tokens from curve trees
2. taproot-ringsig
3. OutputZero
1. Anonymous usage tokens from curve trees
2. taproot-ringsig
3. OutputZero
I appreciate the technical links but I would have to run it through AI before having any hope of understanding it.