Re: Removing OP_return limits seems like a huge mistake

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Quote from: gmaxwell on June 11, 2025, 02:50:09 AM

Quote from: nutildah on June 11, 2025, 02:46:39 AM

It looks like the subject was brought up again with a different approach, but I'm not smart enough to understand how its different or the implication of the 5 commits being merged as of 2 days ago:

As pointed out up-thread: it was closed in favor of an alternative approach that kept the setting but changed the default.

You might have also missed that in the middle the project published a statement clarifying its approach to the default policy behavior for relay: https://bitcoincore.org/en/2025/06/06/relay-statement/

Nice, at least it shows a little dose of listening to the concerns. I didn't really buy any arguments regarding technical debt for keeping a setting like that, because it is very small that it is practically irrelevant in terms of workload. I don't like that it is marked deprecated already, which is why I assume many people downvoted it in addition to their general concerns on this topic. If it gets removed in the near future, then the listening was sadly just fake posturing.

I do wonder though whether this change would be reverted or not if the naysayers end up being mostly right in the future. If not, such an outcome would clarify a lot of things. Let's wait and see.

Anyhow, it is time to see how Bitcoin Knots works, not that we have any real alternatives here. Lips sealed

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Quote from: gmaxwell on June 11, 2025, 02:50:09 AM

Quote from: nutildah on June 11, 2025, 02:46:39 AM

It looks like the subject was brought up again with a different approach, but I'm not smart enough to understand how its different or the implication of the 5 commits being merged as of 2 days ago:

As pointed out up-thread: it was closed in favor of an alternative approach that kept the setting but changed the default.

You might have also missed that in the middle the project published a statement clarifying its approach to the default policy behavior for relay: https://bitcoincore.org/en/2025/06/06/relay-statement/

Nice, at least it shows a little dose of listening to the concerns. I didn't really buy any arguments regarding technical debt for keeping a setting like that, because it is very small that it is practically irrelevant in terms of workload. I don't like that it is marked deprecated already, which is why I assume many people downvoted it in addition to their general concerns on this topic. If it gets removed in the near future, then the listening was sadly just fake posturing.

I do wonder though, whether this change would be reverted or not if the naysayers end up being mostly right in the future ~~whether this change would be reverted or not~~. If not, such an outcome would clarify a lot of things. Let's wait and see.

Original archived Re: Removing OP_return limits seems like a huge mistake

Scraped on 11/06/2025, 15:29:25 UTC

Quote from: gmaxwell on June 11, 2025, 02:50:09 AM

Quote from: nutildah on June 11, 2025, 02:46:39 AM

It looks like the subject was brought up again with a different approach, but I'm not smart enough to understand how its different or the implication of the 5 commits being merged as of 2 days ago:

As pointed out up-thread: it was closed in favor of an alternative approach that kept the setting but changed the default.

You might have also missed that in the middle the project published a statement clarifying its approach to the default policy behavior for relay: https://bitcoincore.org/en/2025/06/06/relay-statement/

Nice, at least it shows a little dose of listening to the concerns. I didn't really buy any arguments regarding technical debt for keeping a setting like that, because it is very small that it is practically irrelevant in terms of workload. I don't like that it is marked deprecated already, which is why I assume many people downvoted it in addition to their general concerns on this topic. If it gets removed in the near future, then the listening was sadly just fake posturing.

I do wonder though, if the naysayers end up being mostly right in the future whether this change would be reverted or not. If not, such an outcome would clarify a lot of things. Let's wait and see.