Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on June 12, 2025, 03:18:48 AM

Quote from: seoincorporation on June 12, 2025, 02:28:11 AM

My prompt was really basic and that's why i got detected by the users (I was expecting to get busted by the mods or admins), but i can make a humanized prompt that avoids the AI detection,

Really? Can you prove that? I say this because if you can do it yourself I don't think it will take long for the technology to be available to everyone.

Yes, it can be done, there are even tools to humanize ai generated content as you can see in the next image

Quote from: NotFuzzyWarm on June 12, 2025, 03:23:48 AM

Quote from: Solodoski on June 12, 2025, 02:56:25 AM

Are we really allowed to test AI on the forum without been penalized?
Wow this is new

The OP -was- penalized: their posts were deleted.
Now if the OP continues to use fully AI generated replies or new topics, that is when sterner response by the mods will happen. It also needs to be pointed out (again) that the Forum does very little automatic scanning of posts (mainly looking for things like gift card scams) - most of the time it is us Forum users who flag and report posts to the mods who then review them and act accordingly.

That's right, i feel like the forum needs to implement some some tools, we could take the post by RSS and send them to a filter for AI verification and scams detection.

Quote from: nutildah on June 12, 2025, 03:25:15 AM

Quote from: seoincorporation on June 12, 2025, 02:28:11 AM

This is a really complex topic guys, and from my point of view is hard to understand what's right and what's wrong about AI. And I'm sure that today we have a lot of undetected AI users.

That much is true.

Good to know that you are conscious that we have a current problem with AI.

Quote from: LoyceV on June 12, 2025, 05:50:50 AM

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understand that this is a fight that we can't win.

There is no "we" if you join the spammers.

I'm creating conscious of the problem and trying to find a way where the community can work together to fix this AI problem for the forum, because it will grow, i know the way i did it wasn't the right way but you can be I haven't move to the dark side, as i told before i will not use AI again on the forum, you can be sure of that.

Quote from: NotATether on June 12, 2025, 07:07:04 AM

It's just one neutral, I wouldn't look too much into it. All is done and dusted anyway.

My spam detection prototype for my search engine is tripping over AI-generated posts like crazy, though.

I really like this initiative, we need more users like you NotATether, users who care about bringing solutions.

Quote from: ABCbits on June 12, 2025, 09:15:16 AM

Quote from: seoincorporation on June 12, 2025, 02:28:11 AM

So, how can we really fight against AI? We could use an automatic process where we verify each new post and the post history of the user and make an AI score, even the user profile could have that score to let us know which users are bots and which are 100% humas.

1. Who wants to build such automated process/system?
2. Who will pay for operation cost of such automated process/system?

1.- Someone who have the knowledge and the time to do it.
2.- The operational cost is really low, n8n is free if we run it in our server, and chatGPT offers 1000 tokens for $0.15

Quote from: TheUltraElite on June 12, 2025, 09:44:25 AM

Bruh what are you trying to do here? Trying to get sympathy for those who are using AI to create replies and your logic is that one day AI will do all this?

I'm trying to show to the community where we are about AI, we should take it serious because this thing is going fast, and it will become a real problem for the future, we must be ready for that or AI will kill the forum.

Quote from: memehunter on June 12, 2025, 09:57:43 AM

I will also reinstate my neutral now as I think your experiment theory is bullshit.

I totally understand it, and i will not allegate against that, sorry for the bad time i give to you and to the community.

Quote from: Lucius on June 12, 2025, 10:30:34 AM

It's not nice to see an old member resorting to these methods, and only reacting when he gets tagged and his posts are deleted. There may be some truth to his explanation for why he did it, but the fact that he didn't inform anyone in advance, and that he participated in the sig campaign at that time definitely doesn't work in his favor.

Hey Lucius, i should inform, you are right with that, but the result wouldn't be the same. I had to try it this way to understand where we are against AI.

Quote from: KingsDen on June 12, 2025, 09:15:20 PM

For your question of if we can win this AI war.
I do not think we can win it. But I am sure something will have to happen in the nearest future. AI will be so abundant in the forum to the extent that human written conversations will be scarce. By this time, campaign managers will have to scan the whole profile of any user in order to be able to hire anyone whose profile is 95 to 100% human written.

You got the point KingsDen, but the nearest future is closer than what we all think.

Quote from: vapourminer on June 12, 2025, 09:57:14 PM

congratulations on ruining any respect or integrity you may of had on this forum

For me this forum isn't about respect or integrity, is about knowledge, i have learned a lot from the people on this forum and always shared my knowledge.

Quote from: Findingnemo on June 12, 2025, 10:23:48 PM

Your story doesn't make sense to me because an admin or a mod doesn't identify the plagiarism or AI-generated content on their own or using any tools, it's identified by the community and reported via the report to mod button or in the dedicated threads.

And you think that's right? is the users job to patrol the forum for AI, Scams and Spammers? That's a cool way to help the community, but we could implement tools for that. That could be a machine job.

Quote from: uchegod-21 on June 12, 2025, 11:18:39 PM

If you were not caught, when where you planning to tell the community about your experiment?

There was no way that i didn't get caught, i was expecting to get caught by the forum staff.

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So, i try to answer some of your questions, sorry that i didn't before but was busy as hell.

I will not complain about the neutral feedback, i deserve them, i know i wake up the users awareness about AI and i'm happy with that result because we are on a evolution process where things are getting atomatized, you all will find bots everywhere and very soon, WhatsApp, telegram, socialnetworks, forums... all will get filled with bots, is something that we can't fight against.

If you can't beat the enemy, join him. Because the only way to do something about AI is by understanding it and knowing how it works, and what its scope is. If the forum staff want's some help to implement AI bots for post review i'm open to help.

So, we all have learned a lesson from this, if you guys are ready to move on let's do it.