Quote from: FP91G on June 13, 2025, 05:54:55 PM

Quote from: 2021Start on June 11, 2025, 08:34:02 PM

Can anyone can confirm if IRS in the US can refund such an investment ?
This is the basic of the plan. Without this refund it does not worth it. But according to TeslaWatt, they can refund over 100% of the investment in 1 year. So you have your investment solars + batteries + miner for free.
Can anyone confirm this ?

Dude, "50k investment for solar panels, batteries and one s21 miner" looks stupid.
What profit will you get after that? It looks like a scam, when a company wants to cheat the IRS.

well a s21 earns 200x.053=$10.60 a day.

it burns 3.5x24=84 kwatts but lets say 90 kwatts.

to run 90kwatts in a day means 6 hours of full charging and 18 of battery.

18x3.6=64.8 stored energy and proper battery is 2x that or 130 kwatts in battery.

to get that charge you need 22kwatts of panels

that is about 55x400=22,000

55 panels and if you get deals maybe 55 panels are 22000 dollars

rebates of 100% in a year do not exist

and 22k for the panels is a lot of land or roof.

plus we are skipping labor and batteries and inverters.

all to earn 10 dollars a day

grid tied system of 22kwatts means 30k investment if lucky.

off grid add 30 batteries at 600 each

why spend 48k to make 10 a day

and you need more batteries in 5 maybe 7 years.

for telsa they can profit because they will charge you 3cents a kwatt

but pretend you do get back the 50k outlay

it would have earned 2k interest.

I guess if you really get the 50k refunded the deal works. but i would not want them and would not lay out 50k in non secured loan to them.

i can get 50k secured and 2k juice.

in a year I get my 50k back

I pay. 90x.03=2.7 a day or 2.7x365=985.5 say 1000 in power

I earned 10.6x365=3,869 so

3,869-1,000=2,869

so no risk 50+2=52

risk 50+2.8=52.8

so gamble 50k for a year to make 800 bucks

now year 2

safe 52x1.04=54.08. you rolled back the interest

risk 2.8+ 2 as you took the refund and banked it you get 54.8

so after 2 years the safe bet is 54.08
the risk bet is 54.8

you are only risking a s21 after year 1

but to only get very little extra profit for complete risk of 50k is not easy to do.

btw if btc moons the risk could do better
if btc tanks the risk is worse.

the op should bank 48k

and buy 2k in btc

in a year

48x1.04=49.92

the 2k in btc may double

so you must have at worst 49,920 if btc zeros out

and maybe 54,000 if btc doubles.

so you risk an 80 dollar loss against a 4,000 gain

vs the other choices.