Quote from: Agbamoni on June 17, 2025, 10:44:45 PM

Quote from: pooya87 on June 16, 2025, 06:11:25 PM

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It's getting really hard to tell what is real and what's not, especially when its coming from unverified source and people who are far away blogging for quick bucks.

This is a fantastic time for everyone to start "rating" various outlets both mainstream and social. See how many mistakes they've made, how much bullshit they have said, or how many accurate things they have said. You have to have a good memory and come back to see if something they said before was correct or not. This way you can know which ones to follow and which ones to ignore in the future.

For instance by Friday Noon a lot of mouthpieces were saying that Israel has destroyed all of Iran's air defense and missile launchers. Now it's Wednesday and Iran has been consistently hitting Israel with missiles every day and also intercepting projectiles and shooting down NATO aircrafts including F-35 ever since Friday afternoon.
This should these mouthpieces a good rate for future reference.

Quote from: mikeywith on June 17, 2025, 11:39:09 PM

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I think it's also a strategy to bleed Israel of its high-end defense missiles, which are limited and very expensive. Israel is ahead of Iran in terms of tech -- thanks to U.S. taxpayers' money. I believe Iran has one advantage over Israel, which is the cost of war. I recall hearing from one Saudi official that one of the main reasons the war against Yemen didn't fulfill its objectives and the Saudis had to stop was the "cost of defense." The Houthis would send a few thousand dollars' worth of missiles toward high-value targets, and the Saudis had to launch high-end, super-expensive air defense missiles like Patriots and whatnot. So every few thousand dollars required a few million to defend against. Saudi Arabia spent, by some estimates, between 200 and 1000 billion dollars on that war alone. Nobody can afford that much indefinitely. I believe Israel is in the same boat now. They want to rush to end the war by inviting the U.S. in; otherwise, Israel won't be able to endure the cost of war, both economically and socially.

It is too soon to talk about Iran's strategy in my opinion, it is currently a mixture of various strategies. This is what I think the strategy is.

1. Using low end cheap ass projectiles at large numbers to empty enemy (aka NATO) air defense missiles.
2. Hitting high value targets with small number of medium end projectiles
3. Raining everything at large quantities dealing a lot of damage after degradation of enemy air defense.

For example on the first two days (Friday and Saturday) Iran launched a large number of 20-30 year old missiles at the enemy (usually Ghadr) that are practically free and needed to be abandoned to open up storage space for more modern missiles. These did a lot of damage over the first two days, some were intercepted but it significantly exhausted the enemy air defense missiles.

What the first large waves did was also to reveal some of the positions of air defense and radars that weren't clear before.
Then on the next phase, Iran used a much smaller number of missiles that were more advanced technologically to hit those defensive systems to directly destroy them.

This is why on Monday there are the least number of missiles launched. These also targeted "key" targets. Like the head of Zionist air-force IIRC or the Mossad and Aman terrorist headquarters that were hit hard in this phase neutralizing dozens of the terrorist spies.

Then came last night and today which is a new phase where the number of missiles grew again which seems to be the indication of entering the step #3 I mentioned above since Iran just established air dominance over Israel last night.