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Quote from: WatChe on June 18, 2025, 06:56:10 PM

In February this year, we saw US president accusing Ukraine president Zelensky of 'gambling with World War Three' and now he is backing Israel in attacking Iran, hypocrisy meets itself.

We saw US attacking Iraq in the name of WMDs and hundreds of thousands of people lost there lives due to that attack. End result was US found nothing like WMDs in Iraq. On the same lines, Netanyahu selling the world his snake oil for 30 years, no kidding. Netanyahu as a opposition leader in 1995 said, Iran can produce Nuclear bombs within 3 to 5 years. There are compilations about Netanyahu claims for last 30 years that Iran is acquiring nuclear weapons https://www.youtube.com/shorts/D2n3ZEKn130

The EU and US is silent on genocide going on in Gaza by Israel and the same west is saying that Israel doing 'dirty work for us' in Iran. It's interesting that Israel who has Nuclear weapons and is not even member of NPT is asking other country to quit nuclear program.

Ukraine wanted Europe and US to get more involved in war against Russia. Russia is not going to use nuke in Ukraine but if Europe and US got involved, there would be chances of the war going nuclear and even if it didn't there could be more countries joining the Russian. Which could lead to a world war.

While US aided bombing or Iran with the help of Israel as proxy comes when Iran is at its lowest. There's no country that would stand in favor of Iran as all of them knows Iran making a nuclear bomb would be devastating for the reason and the whole world.

In short, attacking Russia might start a world war but a even complete genocide of Iran won't.
It's not a good thing but its always the strongest that bullies and gets everything. The weakling either die fighting or be slaves to the bullies.

I guess it depends on whether the other powers in the Middle East (Saudi Arabia, Turkey) are willing to accept a stronger Israel at the cost of a weaker Iran, especially with what is happening in Gaza and the West Bank.

Also Russia has many times threatened nuclear retaliation for any perceived breaches of its red lines (from F-16 shipments, HIMARS to Western missiles) without really unleashing nuclear missiles: it seems Russia has a habit of moving red lines a lot whether a "red line" gets breached.

Russia has humiliated itself against an unexpectedly strong Ukraine, I wouldn't be surprised if more countries or groups attempt to take advantage of the diversion.

The interesting thing is that Russia is gradually taking over the areas that it wants without nukes. The current population of Ukraine is about 30-million, a lot less that Russia. So, if somebody doesn't come and help Ukraine, Russia will take them over.

Russia has returned several thousand dead Ukrainian soldiers to Ukraine. Ukraine has returned less that 100. Does this mean that Russia is beating Ukraine that badly? Or does it mean that Ukraine is selling body parts to get funds for the war?

In addition, the US is busy with Iran and will not be helping Ukraine for a while.

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