Quote from: Flexie80 on Today at 08:07:19 PM

Quote from: holydarkness on Today at 08:02:14 PM

Quote from: Rating Place on Today at 07:49:42 PM

Just post what you have. If I'm wrong then I'll apologize. I'll bet whatever you want to bet that they don't have proof of arbitrage betting. All you need are two bet slips.

No.

I'll break my vow of silence and hurt my reputation as a "bridge" and secret keeper if I just post it here. Why should I ruin my own reputation that I've built for years and painstakingly garnered casinos trust so much so I can see and understand cases from both sides fairly, FOR NOTHING, freely, taking toll to my own sanity and time, only to throw it away for... an apology? Especially after I gave you plenty of time to calm down and digest the information, that you mixed up the case and [perhaps] upon realizing it, you tripped and spiralled as you tried to double down. I've been patient enough and try to deescalate the matter, I offered you explanation, and you twist my words and paint me as a liar. Multiple times.

And now you're here proposing me to just post what I have, that I earned after years of trading my sanity and time [again, for free, I didn't benefit at all from all the cases I oversee, nor seeking any], in return for an apology?

So, here's my bet: put 1.56 million USD on "the table" [an escrow, if that's too hard to understand], I'll show my card to the dealer [again, that's a DT that we both agree, if that's too hard to understand] that the casino was informed by the provider that the player is arbing. Otherwise, this shall be the turning point, a revelation, that tell us what man Rating Place is. That he can't put money where his mouth is.

Then how about you hand over the evidence of arbitrage betting to the accuser himself? Surely nobody can say you're not trustworthy for doing that, as it keeps only in the arms of the ones who are directly involved.

Not feasible, I think. I was given access to it with strict order that it may not "leave the room". Analogically, maybe it's a last will and testament. The lawyer [full disclaimer: I'm not saying I'm perceiving myself as a lawyer here] still have to keep that document and can't show it to the inheritor, even if they're the one directly involved. So yeah, I can't show it to any other being even theymos himself, without the information-giver's permission.

That is what I garnered after years spending time here and enduring mudslingers: casinos trusts that they can show me with private matters.

And what I'm about to do is to violate the very own vow of silence, my words is my bond, thing. I'm about to throw away years of voluntary works I do. So yeah, if that reputation has to go, it'll go with a bang, not a whimper of a lousy "oh sorry, I was wrong," or to the player who quite likely denied the content themselves as it'll directly incriminating themselves. "Plead the fifth"?

Mehh... who are we kidding? We all know that it's mostly a test to Rating Place that he's a man, not just a coward keyboard warrior who think he knows everything. To prove himself. He gave rating to casinos, yet he didn't know that providers warn casinos? Are we allowed to question the credibility of his rating site?

So, Peeps, that's the deal.

Quote from: Rating Place on Today at 08:16:51 PM

Holydarkness how much are we betting? You need to show bet slips that both players made arbitrage bets. I’ll check back later.

No, you're twisting words, again. This time the clause of the agreement. Is this a real trait of yours and not a sudden burst of... something that's out of your character? The deal was for me to show to a reputable member that the provider did warn a casino [on this specific case, Betby].

Quote from: holydarkness on Today at 07:03:54 PM

From the top of my head, I gave you three chances to back down and to calm down and to digest the situation. I offered you to read and if perhaps you want to revise and retract your statement about me lying. I've gave enough chances to deescalate the matter. Yet you insist with me lying. So, let's escalate it. Let's put money where your logic and mouth and knowledges are.

Escrow 1 million USD... no, 1 point 56 million USD [yes, the 56 is the pun intended for the odds of the wager in this case], one million five hundred and sixty thousand USD, 1,560,000 USD to an escrow, then select a DT. I'll break my vow of silence to XYes and show the proof that was intended to be for my eyes only, that the instruction and the flag come from the provider [well, basically I am not violating their trust, as GoT is planning to ask for other reputable member anyway].

Give your words and we can settle it for good. Or... take my words that I said what I saw. And I'm an honest man. And fair.

Edit for your edit, again:

Quote from: Rating Place on Today at 06:55:58 PM

[...] Just be honest. The provider didn't flag for arbitrage. You posted fake rules.

I posted... what now?

Here's the binding written contract:

"I, holydarkness, shall provide an evidence given by XYes casino that the casino got a warning from their provider, Betby, that forum username darwstall, that is also XYes casino UID holder 79335696, to a DT that both I, holydarkness and you, Rating Place shall agree to be the one to confirm or disprove the said statement made by me, holydarkness, namely the provider inform the casino of an arbitrage bet made by UID 79335696.

You, Rating Place, shall provide and put 1,560,000 USD [one million five hundred and sixty thousand USD] to an escrow, that shall release the fund to me, holydarkness, once the evidence being referred above verified by the DT that both parties agreed. And if the evidence deemed by the DT to be not valid to back my, holydarkness, statement, I holydarkness shall mark the casino with a tag to warn forum members of the risk playing in their casino and rule the case as unresolved in my, holydarkness, list, thus 100% in favor of the player."

Take that, or leave and this shall be reference point and revelation that you're nothing but empty words. All barks and no bite. Building a "rating place" for casinos without knowing that provider does inform and instruct casinos for violation. Of which... certainly entitle us to question the credibility of that ratings you give.

Or do you want three DTs? So it'll be more not biased?

And remember this well: I tried to deescalate matters many times, trying to give you chance to understand and to calm yourself. And you call me a liar and twist my words. So, maybe something is indeed broken beyond repair.

Edit for your edit:

Quote from: Rating Place on Today at 08:16:51 PM

[...]
If you aren’t going to make this bet, then you should have ruled 100% for the players.

Okay, I'll raise, I'll add that clause to our agreement: "And if the evidence deemed by the DT to be not valid to back my, holydarkness, statement, I holydarkness shall mark the casino with a tag to warn forum members of the risk playing in their casino and rule the case as unresolved in my, holydarkness, list, thus 100% in favor of the player"