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Quote from: passwordnow on June 28, 2025, 03:59:23 AM
Quote from: btc-freedom-money on June 27, 2025, 09:41:39 PM
I see many videos on youtube where they tell you to get residency visa in countries that are unlikely to be involved in a world war 3.

Is it really enough to have a residency visa? I think the country you are a citizen in can still force you to come back to join the war if they want to. Either they already have such a law or they can create one when it's time. The country you would have a residency visa at would have to deport you. I think the only way to avoid such a situation is by getting citizenship in a country that is unlikely to join a war, so residency is not enough.

And it might not even be enough with dual citizenship. Because the origin country could change the law and forbid dual citizenship and then the country you got a dual citizenship at would have to remove your citizenship and deport you. So you would have to renounce your citizenship with the country you think is likely to join a war.
Getting a resident visa to a new country where you plan to live on isn't that easy. If you have no money, you'll have to go through with years of working and living there.
a resident visa is not the same as citizenship.. citizenship is the thing that is not easy and takes going through many years of working and living there..
.. heres the hole in your thought.. to live there for years to earn citizenship. you first need the resident visa and apply each period to extend it to "work and live there"

again for emphasis, if you have the permit(visa) to live somewhere, you have the resident visa. but not yet the citizenship
its a big difference between a resident permit(visa) compared to being declared a permanent resident(/citizen)


Quote from: passwordnow on June 28, 2025, 03:59:23 AM
While there are golden ticket visas that are a shortcut process to your resident visa and passport and that's through investing or buying it to those countries. Many countries offer this and I think many are choosing those countries in the Carribbean part because it's easy to get a passport there and you can live there if you have money. Most likely it's ranging from $100k and more than $250k.

having a resident visa does not earn you a passport.
a resident visa comes with conditions. such as only valid if working. or only valid if in education.. meaning if you lose your job or drop out of education, your resident visa stops

a golden ticket visa is more permanent as it gives you more security of being allowed to stay than a resident visa does, but doesnt give you all the extra's that a citizenship does.
now with that clarified..
a residency visa does not absolve you from your native countries conditions of return, EG army draft
however if the host country you have a permit to live in has a non extradition treaty. you are less likely to be dragged back to your native country. but ill emphasise less.. because its not a sure thing. some countries might have other treaties in place that separate criminal justice extradition vs national draft(conscription) extraditions, where by there may be treaties that make you have to draft with the host country instead
Original archived Re: Residency to avoid world war?
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Quote from: passwordnow on June 28, 2025, 03:59:23 AM
Quote from: btc-freedom-money on June 27, 2025, 09:41:39 PM
I see many videos on youtube where they tell you to get residency visa in countries that are unlikely to be involved in a world war 3.

Is it really enough to have a residency visa? I think the country you are a citizen in can still force you to come back to join the war if they want to. Either they already have such a law or they can create one when it's time. The country you would have a residency visa at would have to deport you. I think the only way to avoid such a situation is by getting citizenship in a country that is unlikely to join a war, so residency is not enough.

And it might not even be enough with dual citizenship. Because the origin country could change the law and forbid dual citizenship and then the country you got a dual citizenship at would have to remove your citizenship and deport you. So you would have to renounce your citizenship with the country you think is likely to join a war.
Getting a resident visa to a new country where you plan to live on isn't that easy. If you have no money, you'll have to go through with years of working and living there.
a resident visa is not the same as citizenship.. citizenship is the thing that is not easy and takes going through many years of working and living there..
.. heres the hole in your thought.. to live there for years to earn citizenship. you first need the resident visa and apply each period to extend it

again for emphasis, if you have the permit(visa) to live somewhere, you have the resident visa. but not yet the citizenship
its a big difference between a resident permit(visa) compared to being declared a permanent resident(citizen)


Quote from: passwordnow on June 28, 2025, 03:59:23 AM
While there are golden ticket visas that are a shortcut process to your resident visa and passport and that's through investing or buying it to those countries. Many countries offer this and I think many are choosing those countries in the Carribbean part because it's easy to get a passport there and you can live there if you have money. Most likely it's ranging from $100k and more than $250k.

having a resident visa does not earn you a passport.
a resident visa comes with conditions. such as only valid if working. or only valid if in education.. meaning if you lose your job or drop out of education, your resident visa stops

a golden ticket visa is more permanent as it gives you more security of being allowed to stay than a resident visa does, but doesnt give you all the extra's that a citizenship does.