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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]
by
DaRude
on 09/07/2025, 17:50:40 UTC
For the second time, Ukraine has managed to destroy 4 SU34 fighter/bombers on the ground. Quite a good strike, of the many to come until Ruzzia looses the whole ireplaceable fleet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7XanZ8AJK0&t=44s

And several factories:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzHxI8nXfT8


You have to read more carefully or you'll get a hopium overdose.

I have seen it being reported, but it mostly refers to air defence. I am not sure about Trump intentions but if he TACOs (Trump Always Chickens Out) from this one, China will be preparing the boats to Taiwan.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/01/us/pentagon-hegseth-ukraine-munitions-hnk

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US pauses some munitions shipments to Ukraine, including air defense missiles, senior White House official says


Think at this point everyone can see what's happening. It's just some are still in denial and need more time to process it and go through the stages. I get that, what bothers me are people that fully understand what happens next, or should know, yet they still encourage younger Ukrainian souls to go to the front lines just to exchange them for a bit more of Russia's weapons reservers Angry  

On the contrary - you are trying to infer from something that is not there. I know that the US is not supporting Ukraine is your wet dream, but that is NOT what is happening. Be careful with the hopium overdose.

RE poor souls, Ruzzia leaves no option to Ukrainians: fight for your country and ensure your children will have a life or let Moscow take over and be the meat for the invasion of Poland, Lithuania... Your perpetual call for a surrender is not an option and it has never been. The choice is to fight today or be filtered, exiled, killed or sent to the next Ruzzian war.

Trump had a call with Putin yesterday . He is now into Ruzzian diplomacy 201 and came out saying that he was unable to achieve anything. Putin has painted himself into a corner and he may not even be able to physically survive even a balanced peace.



A blind can see what's going on with US's support of Ukraine. Your comments on this are just anecdotal at this point.

Funny how in 2013 all of Ukrainians lived in peace just fine, and no one even thought about dying or fighting anyone. But then after US cookies have arrived, the false options Ukrainians are now fed is to either die now defending Poland or to die later fighting Poland. How do you sleep at night? But luckily, the option that we are moving towards is just unbanning Russian culture, music, books, language, religion... and electing a new valid president in Ukraine, so things can just go back to the status quo of 2013. Russia's demand for a ceasefire was for the west to stop supplying weapons to Ukraine, we see that part being played out now, next the ceasefire will start and then the elections in Ukraine will follow. Despite your best efforts to derail it and your seemingly personal cravings for more souls to perish in this, the world is finally moving in the right direction.

Edit:
China tells EU it can’t accept Russia losing its war against Ukraine, official says who could've possibly predicted that other global power not separated from the conflict by the ocean, could also have national interest in the outcome, oh right I've been saying this since day 1

"America has no permanent friends or enemies, only interests" -Henry Kissinger

First things first: "The phrase "nations do not have permanent friends, only permanent interests" is a common idiom in international relations, often attributed to Lord Palmerston, a 19th-century British Prime Minister". But I reckon you got creative on that one.

As you got very creative when claiming that the US was withdrawing the support clinging to an article mentioning the pausing of certain help. But in both cases is time for you to come back to real life and face the fact that Ruzzia is going to be involved in the war for much much longer and is going to progressively being economically destroyed.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/russias-war-fueled-economy-running-092901831.html

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Russia's wartime economic momentum is fading fast, with key resources nearly exhausted, Russian Central Bank Governor Elvira Nabiullina said, warning that the country can no longer rely on the same tools that sustained growth in the first two years of the full-scale war against Ukraine, the Moscow Times reported on June 19.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/7/9/trumps-latest-ukraine-russia-u-turn-why-is-the-us-resuming-arms-supplies

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Monday’s resumption followed Russia’s intensified attacks. In recent weeks, Ukrainians have endured hours-long overnight drone and missile assaults on key cities that have killed and wounded civilians – and kept millions awake.

We’re going to send some more weapons. We have to [so that Ukrainians] have to be able to defend themselves,” Trump told a news conference in Washington, DC.

As advice, make sure you do not interpret future news with excessive optimism. Trump is a slow learner, but now has achived a pass grade on Ruzzian Diplomacy 101, and understands a bit better the difference between what Putin says, what Putin does and what happens in the real world of the war in Ukraine.

Why cite yahoo's reprint instead of original the Kyiv Independent at https://kyivindependent.com/russias-war-fueled-economy-is-running-on-empty-central-bank-chief-warns/ do you believe that it somehow adds objectivity to Ukrainian story?

So the same old story, Russia will collapse financially/politically/militarily any second now, you just keep hanging in there and use this story to find more troops for the frontlines, that's being told for the last 3 years. Getting pretty boring. It's either that or some genius analysis that Russia cannot sustain something for eternity, or breaking news that Putin is apparently mortal and surely must die sometime in the future. Blah blah blah thought we all established that what's important here is not whether something can be sustained indefinitely but what's the weakest link and who will collapse first.

Financially Russia is surely struggling but how's Russia's debt level and outlook compares to Germany/UK/EU... How hard would it be for Russia to raise few more billions just by issuing more debt say against resources in its 4 new regions? Any recent news from China that would indicate whether China would prop Russia up financially?
Politically, apparently we're already on a 3rd or 4th Putin clone and guessing Russia has many more in store next to Lenin? so seems pretty stable there. US has for the second time paused weapons delivery in last few months.
Militarily, well, seems to be the Achilles' heel for Ukraine, we all see what's happening on the front lines. Who could've possibly known beforehand that Russia has 3x population of Ukraine.