Quote from: paxmao on Today at 09:03:57 PM

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Quote from: paxmao on July 09, 2025, 11:11:30 AM

Despite Trump being... well, himself, and Musk being, in the end, a guy that is focused on his accumulation of wealth at least I would say the crypto agenda has been advanced by Trump. I am not sure he is advancing it in the right direction with that "stablecoin law" but that is a discussion for a full thread.

On Musk, he is about thinnin the state - but I would say rather selectively and certainly not on a Libertarian agenda.

Musk does not do politics for pleasure, he is ill suited for it.

I think what is going on with Musk goes beyond accumulation of wealth, to be honest. Just think about it, there are billionaires and millionaires who continue to have the steering wheel of their businesses and continue to accumulate their wealth without getting involved directly in politics. Sure, getting involved certainly accelerates the rate of accumulation since he would turn laws on his favor, but he is already one of the wealthiest men on the planet.
My personal theory is about Elon being the kind of person who needs to constantly be the spotlight regardless what is going on in the world, he is a pathological attention seeker, unlike other billionaires who focus on increasing their fortune quietly.
Any intelligent business person whole realize that it does not matter which political party your buyers are, as long as they contribute to increase your capital, by getting involved in politics this way he was basically reduced his potential base of clients worldwide as Chinese manufacturers push forward more affordable models of electric cars.

If you think of it, why does a guy that owns enough to live 10 lives of massive luxury with nearly no limits not want to pay taxes?

My answer to that is that Trump is a modern Ilustrated Despot: he does not believe in Democracy nor participation because he sees himself as a superior being. And he may be above average sure, but that is not how the system works.

Thus, anything in politics he does will be to make sure he makes the decissions along with his billionaire's club.

As I am not yet a billionaire, I am unlikely to benefit from his policies. But anyway I live in Paxmania, so it is just the influence that I dislike.

The part that you forget is that you don't know what Trump is thinking.

Trump advertised MAGA long before he ever became President, even though he didn't call it MAGA back then. The thing that he didn't do was train the public how the things that he is doing is causing MAGA to happen, even though they look like they are against MAGA. Of course, if he trained the people, the Deep State would have easily seen his plan.

Trump has a particularly difficult job... producing MAGA for the people who are fighting him, so that they have true freedom along with the rest of us.

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