Quote from: jvanname on Today at 05:53:09 AM

Quote from: BADecker on Today at 05:39:06 AM

The sun is shrinking https://duckduckgo.com/?q=The+sun+is+shrinking&t=ffab&ia=web

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I see that you seem to be referring to some posts by the Institute of Creation Research. I am aware of the creationist proposal that the sun and stars are powered by gravitational collapse instead of nuclear fusion. Gravitational collapse gives the sun some of its energy, but it seems to only have enough energy to power the sun for about 20 million years. This is easy to calculate and has been done in the 1800's. But the sun is older than 20 million years. With nuclear fusion, we get e=mc^2 energy where c is the speed of light (though only a portion of the mass is converted into energy). With gravitational collapse, we get approximately (up to a small constant factor) (1/2)m v^2 energy where v is approximately the escape velocity of the surface of the sun which is about 617000 meters per second. c is about 300,000,000 meters per second. So fusion wins. Fusion gives you more energy.

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-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

P.S. I used to be a lot more accepting of creationists, but that was a much different era back then before January 2020 and December 2024 came along. We are living in a very dangerous era where biological laboratories will be able to make some truly f#@#ed up pathogens such as mirror bacteria. Mirror bacteria will be able to reproduce and evolve at a much higher rate than humans, so we need to learn how to deal with evolving mirror bacteria so we don't go extinct. And a good way to start this is to understand the theory of biological evolution.

God made this universe in 6 days. How much work can you do in a week?

We totally don't know the power of God. We don't have a clue about some universe He might have been working on for a thousand years... or if there are thousands of them that He has been working on for a thousand years... and how many thousands of other universes He has made over what we might consider to be time unending... and if there is even 'time unending' in His ultra Heaven.

Jesus accessed (in human form) God's Heaven of Heavens. And Jesus offers to take us there when this universe is destroyed... if we only accept His joy filled offer. Otherwise we go down with the ship, staying in this universe and its forever destruction... because FOREVER is simply a tiny aspect of what God the ALMIGHTY really is and does.

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