Quote from: polymerbit on Today at 07:42:00 PM

Quote from: SN347 on Today at 06:14:16 PM

Quote from: ChiBitCTy on Today at 05:53:47 PM

If this is really true, then it needs to be made public to protect the remaining collectors... otherwise, we are going to get some very serious problems. If it's no longer possible to distinguish between originals and fakes, the entire field is 100% dead. It will die a slow D E A T H. Even coins with a clean history will no longer find a buyer.

Since when exactly have these faked CAS holograms been in circulation ??

The first time I held fake CAS holograms in my hand was in 2022/3. But the way Mikes' holograms were made used some very clever security techniques. Extremely advanced for 2011 and still easily hold up today. The only way to truly copy the hologram would be to have the "master". The physical engravings have encoded info above 10k DPI (probably E BEAM tech so at least 100k DPI) and can't truly be copied to the level where an auction house would struggle to know the difference.

With EBAM, you can shrink an extremely detailed map of the moon to the size of 1cm (https://www.optaglio.cz/en/e-beam-lithography). No scanner on earth could replicate it. Not to mention that engravings are actually 3D. So you'd need to get the right angle of the curves and even the varying thicknesses. Good luck with that.

Document security is typically split into four levels, with forensic being shared with the auction house. The fourth level is only known to the manufacturer.

On top of that, the consistency of the materials and chemical make up create a sort of signature. Like artwork that is worth millions is verified, so can Cas coins.

For example, each Polymerbit can be traced down to the printer, country and day it was made.

I can say with confidence that we've been researching these security risks for obvious reasons. I'm not overly concerned for the future of collectibles.

I wholeheartedly agree with Polymerbit on this. On top of that if Public keys are known and attached to physicals they can be checked - Verifying there originality & legitimacy. No two keys are the same. Check the addresses attached to physicals and confirm them. These fake CAS copies will have tell-tale signs within the addresses as well as the holograms.