Quote from: rdluffy on Today at 12:51:07 PM

Quote from: Volgastallion on July 21, 2025, 01:23:53 PM

Sorry guys to disrupt your talk, but i was seeing the other day Santos again losing pretty badly and i start to think to myself "why are this bad?" i mean i see the line up and the substitutes and i see really good players, what is happening if im not mistaken they already change coach in this season and doesnt seem to change anything.

Or the main problem is they are old?

I believe that many people (especially those outside Brazil) know Santos, mainly because of Pelé and Neymar
The team has had some great moments and is still a big team, but its performance in recent years has been that of an average team and nothing more

Last year, the team was in Serie B and won the championship
Before that, it only won a state championship in 2016

It's a curious situation, because it has good players on the paper, but in practice it's not working out
Currently, the team is in the relegation zone, and to be honest, it's fair. I watched some of the team's games, and it's unfortunate how bad the team is, even with Neymar

Yes, i understand that but i cant believe how they can be this bad having very good players.

About a few post above this one and to not quaote so large, Cruzeiro is the candidate rifht now? I dont see it, they dont seem that good. I feel like they are having a super good run and showing a lot but they are gonna fall later in the season.

My only concern is how good is gonna be Gabriel Barbosa, if he keeps this good level, maybe i can change my opinion.