Quote from: Ale88 on Today at 04:27:32 PM

Quote from: Mr Reporter on July 22, 2025, 08:08:49 PM

This has been all said around that the evolution of football has indeed shifted towards a more operational team orientated approach which I think this can sometimes overlap the individual brilliant, the old game did have a certain charm, with players like Ronaldinho showcasing Thier skills, well I think are really right that Brazil and Argentina have consistently produced some top notch well talented players and to me I feel it not surprising given that much passion for football in those countries, we all have a great idea that the sport has long been a way out of progress for many years in south African countries which has added a layer of depth to the players dedication and drive despite the change in the games, watching Brazil and Argentina at the world cup I s always kind of thrilling to me.

What you are calling "more operational team orientated approach" for me means one simple thing: killing the essence of the game. You mention Ronaldinho, if today Ronaldinho was a 12-year-old boy his manager would probably tell him to stop doing tricks, to quickly pass the ball, and to put on some muscles. They don't want talent, they want soldiers, they want players who do what they are told to. For me football is losing a lot of magic and the fact that even Brazilian players are losing this magic says a lot. Athletically now football players are all insane, technically is a disaster, the level significantly dropped.

Quote from: Volgastallion on Today at 01:41:05 PM

Quote from: Ale88 on July 20, 2025, 04:36:05 PM

Quote from: Volgastallion on July 18, 2025, 02:02:04 PM

Im still surprised on how we dont see yet at least one good player from the whole south asia and even including India we still didnt see any good player for there, im not expecting a whole national team making good steps towards becoming a contender to be in the next world cup, but at least to see 1 between so many millions reaching europe.

How can they be this bad?

I guess it's mainly because football is not the main sport. Sometimes we see things from a European/South American point of view, where there is football, more football, and more football again, and then some other sport. I don't know a lot about sports in India but I guess that cricket is way more popular than football; same goes with China where they focus more on individual sports rather than teams. Japan for example have been investing a lot of time and money promoting football because until 20-30 years ago it was not very popular and I think that still nowadays baseball is more popular than football.

Improving a national team requires decades of work because you have to create and grow a few generations of players, it's not something that you can do in a few years, it requires a huge amount of organization and planning.

Sorry for answer this late.

I know this is the main answer they give about this, they said is not his first sport, and is ok, but if we look into it you see they hace so much population so even being the third sport they have to produce something and that is not happening at all.

For example in Spain basquet is not their main sports but they keep making good players, and you can pick any sport in any country and see it.

I don't think it's possible to compare countries like Spain and many of the Asian countries, Spain have way more resources to invest than the average Asian country.

No I don't think so because when you talk about football it depends on the country's priority if they are interested in investing in football or not there are lot of poor countries even in Europe that are doing well in sports because they have given priority to sports.

Not all countries in Asia is poor what you will say is that they have not invested well in sport that is why football in Asia is not as developed as that of European countries and off recent I think that Asian countries like China has made significant improvements in terms of investment in sport using football as an example