Quote from: Altryist on Today at 09:52:14 AM

Quote from: Despairo on Today at 07:06:47 AM

Yep, I thought Leverkusen use their Academy players, but when I check their lineup in that match, most of them are senior players https://www.besoccer.com/match/flamengo-u20-juvenil/bayer-leverkusen/202612247/lineups

I think there's no excuse, even though Leverkusen lost Tah, Frimpong and Wirtz, but the current players should able to beat mediocre team. Unfortunately they lost with big margin, this show if Ten Hag was the problem.

It's just a preseason match, and it's still too early to assess how well the team can play under Ten Hag. I think Ten Hag also needs some time to evaluate the players' form. After all, they had a long break during the off-season, and the team lost several players. But it's only a preseason match, and maybe he just wanted to see what each player is capable of. Of course, I agree that losing even a preseason game with such a score isn't a good sign, but it's still too early to judge their form based on one match.

I agree that you can't judge a team based on one game; we need more games to gather more relevant data on their potential. The results achieved so far are promising, but in recent seasons, Ten Hag has had a poor track record, especially with his previous team, so what happened in the last game raises concerns that he might repeat the same mistakes as he did at Manchester United.

In addition to assessing player potential and evaluating strategies, he must also engage in self-reflection. The source of the mistakes must be clearly identified because Leverkusen is not a poor team that should endure such humiliation. Even though this was a preseason match, it should not have resulted in such a humiliating goal tally.

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