Quote from: Ambatman on July 24, 2025, 02:38:09 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 22, 2025, 06:19:54 PM

My own assessment is that The Sceptical Chymist continues with his overly skeptical doubting Thomas take, even though sooner or later in this here world he might have some ability to say "look, I was right,"

I think this is the same reason why he's in it for Bitcoin.
Strong potential low risk. Same applies to me.
Like you said one isn't obliged to buy the various stocks of MSTR and other copies.
Even staying on the sidelines and waiting to see how it goes wouldn't cost much as long as you own your Bitcoin.

Overall our bitcoin bags are still pumped quite greatly by Saylor/MSTR's bitcoin accumulation strategies and the various similar behaviors of an increasing number of companies and/or even governments doing similar things to follow the Saylor/MSTR bitcoin accumulation strategy.

Surly guys who are still accumulating bitcoin might well be disadvantaged by the bitcoin price pumping, yet still they are better off to be still accumulating bitcoin as compared with a large number of folks who are have not accumulated any (no coiners) or many (low coiners) and who might not be planning to accumulate more because some of them may well be waiting for dips that might not end up happening.

Quote from: Ambatman on July 24, 2025, 02:38:09 PM

For example, I live in a developing nation where Real Estate is starting to get attention( I'm talking about lands and the likes not their stocks)
After Bitcoin, they come second in my portfolio and some shares scattered around
I personally believe this covers enough for me for now so trying MSTR and the likes is a problem for future Batman.

Fair enough. Each of us have to figure out the extent to which we might feel needs to invest in other assets besides bitcoin, which also depends in part based on how many bitcoin we already have accumulated and other aspects of our life circumstances.

Quote from: Ambatman on July 24, 2025, 02:38:09 PM

Quote from: nikola22 on July 23, 2025, 07:48:41 PM

as you may have noticed I suppose allocation 10% of portfolio for assets that now are used for alternative corporate treasuries. many companies are raising hundreds of millions to buy some ETH or SOL and who knows how far this may go. if there were treasuries based only on BTC certainly investing in altcoins wouldn't make sense. of course I don't propose investing in such shitcoins like SHIB, PEPE and many others similar but having some ETH or SOL won't hurt. besides it will be possible to swap them for BTC if they show some kind of abnormal growth. the ultimate goal is to build up more reserves in BTC and if altcoins would help, why not? )

The number of people that have survived this strategy are few.
I still can't comprehend how people consider investing in Bitcoin and altcoins as diversification.
Why make things complicated if it can be made easy.

People who believe that they need to invest any more than 10% into various shitcoins or shitcoin derivatives likely do not understand bitcoin... or alternatively they are using shitcoins as a trade, such as what some insiders to those scams do.

Quote from: fillippone on July 24, 2025, 03:31:01 PM

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MICROSTRATEGY PLANS TO RAISE $2B FOR BITCOIN PURCHASES, UPSIZING FROM $500M: BBG

Strategy has just announced a quadruple increase in its capital raise from $500 million to $2 billion.

They are scaling up their efforts, as the game is becoming increasingly crowded, and MSTR must stay ahead of the pack in terms of generating BTC for their shareholders.

It seems to me that MSTR already set the pace, the increase in the various other products likely contributes towards increasing demand towards MSTR and its products rather than taking away from MSTR, even though surely at various points along the way interest in the product will slow down (with downturns in the BTC price - that can happen at any time, or when the targeted market matures, seems to be quite a ways down the road, maybe more than 10 years to really break into the market, yet the can also be some manifestation of a market that had not previously been there).