Quote from: Fiatless on July 29, 2025, 08:54:08 PM

Quote from: farsky on July 29, 2025, 03:03:17 PM

We have a nice collection of naive people here who believe that cooperation with communist and former communist countries will bring you anything good other than rosy hopes Cheesy

This is a group of people who are tired of the bullying and oppression of the West. People who want to be independent of the control so called powerful countries.

All I want is a world where nations will have alternatives. Developing nations need an alternative to SWIFT, the IMF, the dollar and even the World Bank. The monopoly of the financial system by some nations is affecting the sovereignty of others. Global influence should not be in the hands of a few nations; we need decentralisation.

Anti-Western narratives are now spreading all over the world and even in Europe there is a lot of pro-communist sentiment.
I lived in the communist USSR and I know what it is.
Good luck on your way to getting rid of Western "oppression". The example of the USSR and Cuba has taught no one a lesson. People do not want to broaden their horizons.
Well, you will deservedly get your "alternative", and I'll be interested to observe it.

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Quote from: Synchronice on July 29, 2025, 12:50:37 PM

By the way, it's very interesting to see what BRICS will achieve. Them being strong will really reshape the global order but will it be for better or for worse? Will the quality of life improve in BRICS countries if they become less dependent on the western world? I don't think so.

Multipolar world is the normal world that has been the situation for thousands of years compared to unipolar world that is abnormal and barely lasted 20-30 years. So I believe that BRICS and generally any attempt at helping the establishment of an actual World Order is a good thing.

Whether the quality of life of individuals in each country is going to improve or not depends on the government the people choose. If it is a competent one, then yes it will improve.
For example read what I explained here 4 months ago. Now tell me how many competent governments among the almost 200 countries in the world took advantage of such opportunities? (some users posted some examples in that topic itself) In this small example, something like BRICS can only help but it still needs competent people in office to actually take advantage and change policies, strike deals with other countries, etc. to improve things.

You are indeed trying to reason coherently, but you are a leftist who has read communist propaganda and is spreading anti-Western and pro-terrorist propaganda.
A leftist will always remain a leftist, the idols of such people are Mao, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Hamas and Putin.

Quote from: Smack That Ace on Today at 08:30:59 AM

Quote from: WillyAp on Today at 12:53:00 AM

using the WWW which is western, What kind of phone do you use, software and such?

We have to pay for those things and even a lot of money, they are not free, and it is simply supply and demand. Moreover, all those inventions are the result of human development, they do not belong to any one individual. The US and the West have made huge contributions in creating them, but for them to develop and become as modern as they are today, and for people to have easier access is thanks to the contribution of the whole world.

But on the other hand, although the United States and the West were the countries that made great contributions to the development of technology in the early days, but now because of their greed, jealousy and selfishness. They are becoming the ones who hinder the development of technology and the world. The evidence is that they feel they are falling behind China, and instead of trying to create a fair competitive environment to push the world to progress further, they abuse their power to hinder that progress by imposing sanctions, blacklisting and banning people from using it. For example, they banned Huawei, ZTE and Tiktok could be the next targets if they can't force China to sell it to them.
If they did not hinder this development, I believe that people all over the world, especially in very poor places, would have access to affordable technology products and our world would certainly be much more developed.

take from the rich and give to the poor.. oh, we've already been through this before.. when was that?
I remembered, Russia in 1917 began to turn into the USSR and really did it: literally took everything from the rich! Did the poor get anything? This remains beyond the knowledge of the ignorant. (spoiler: the poor were given nothing except "happiness in work" and the Iron Curtain).
Communism is an attempt to establish justice... but the result of its implementation always turns into a prison