Quote from: yixichloro2xx on Today at 07:22:46 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 05:46:45 PM

I think that both are true.

1) bitcoin will slow down in it CAGR, yet it could take 50-200 years to really reach a kind of stable level. .. so it is likely that each 4 year cycle will have a bit of a lower amount of UP with the passage of time.. and so the overall average amount of growth per yer (the CAGR) will continue to come down too.. .. but there will also likely be up and down years along the way.. and the heavily down years will drag the numbers down and the heavily up years will drag the numbers up.. yet the trend overall should continue to be down as bitcoin is still in its adoption phase, yet at the same time, adoption still continuing to grow.

2) bitcoin will continue to outperform various traditional investment both in terms of its fundamentals being better than a lot of them, and since bitcoin is a (money and information) protocol and also since bitcoin has a disadvantage of being in its early stages of adoption... so bitcoin's network effects (like those outlined by Trace Mayer) continue to grow and fold upon themselves.

Bitcoins CAGR won’t stay at those wild numbers forever, but even if it slows down, it can still leave traditional assets in the dust. It is like watching a race where the fastest runner starts jogging and still wins because everyone else is crawling.

Trace Mayer’s network effect idea is spot on too,Bitcoin keeps pulling in more people, tech, and money like a snowball that refuses to melt. As long as adoption keeps growing, there is s still a lot of juice left in this orange.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 05:46:45 PM

I agree with all of this, while at the same time, seats will come available as the price goes up, but yeah at the same time, if the price did not go up enough, then some of those seats will still not come available and people surely can choose whether or not to give up some seats, even if they know that they are limited.. and yeah, if they are holding 100 chairs but they only need 1 or 2 or 10, they may well be willing to give up 5 of their chairs at $115k, and then perhaps another 3 chairs at $173k and another chair or two at $276k.. .. so they might not even realized that they were holding so many chairs until at some later point down the road.. and surely there are some guys with 1,000s of chairs...

By the way, the idea of limited supply is correct, but it probably is still fair to suggest that we have 2.1 Quadrillion chairs.. but at the same time, there are some folks who hold trillions of those chairs.. ... and even folks who are considered relatively small potatoes are holding billions of those chairs... some are still accumulating chairs and others are o.k. with letting some of the chairs go since they have way more chairs than they need or want relative to how much the chairs cost them versus how much they can get for their chairs currently.

Haha, love the way you broke it down with the chair market analogy, it is funny how some people won’t even realize they have been hoarding an entire conference room worth of seats until the venue starts filling up and You are right that Bitcoin supply is limited, but distribution is dynamic. As price climbs, some folks will naturally start freeing up their extra chairs,not because they want to leave the party, but because the ticket price suddenly looks too good to ignore......Still, most people forget this, that even if seats change hands, there are never more seats. That is the beauty of Bitcoin, it doesn’t matter who is sitting, the total count doesn’t change, and eventually demand does the heavy lifting.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 05:46:45 PM

There is a lot that can be learned in bitcoin, yet we do not need to know all of the details in order to figure out how much of a stake that we might want to take and how we might choose to manage our stash through the years, whether we are still accumulating bitcoin or we might transition into maintenance stage or even if we are lucky we might get to overaccumulation stage in which we can start to live off of our bitcoin.. and even starting to draw from our bitcoin might not necessarily require that we reach overaccumulation stage if there might be some other reasons such as age and/or health that might cause us to move into some kind of a withdrawal stage.

I like the way you really explain this and moreover Bitcoin really lets you choose your own way, whether you are saving up, holding steady, or using some slowly, there is no one size fits all path, and that is what makes it special and I like how you pointed out that even partial understanding is enough to start. You don’t need to be a protocol wizard to recognize value, especially when Bitcoin fundamentals keep proving themselves over time.

And yeah, life plays a role too for example health, age, personal goals and sometimes it makes sense to start using what you have built without waiting for some perfect overaccumulation threshold. At the end of the day, the point is not only to hoard forever, but to eventually turn that value into freedom.

Quote from: ndutndut on Today at 06:27:13 PM

There's no guarantee if we invest targeting profits for just a few years, but if we invest for the long term, there is a guarantee; you just need to persevere with strong patience. Sometimes we have to align information about Bitcoin with belief. This means that if you know Bitcoin is the best digital asset, you also need to believe that Bitcoin is a long-term asset that will lead us to financial freedom someday.

Because if your belief is not there, you'll inevitably hesitate to buy Bitcoin. You might buy Bitcoin, but when it drops sharply, you'll inevitably sell it because you lacked belief (no guarantee). Even if there's no guarantee, as you say, that's why it's important to invest with money you can afford to lose. I believe that confidence is crucial for long term investing, as it's a mindset that keeps us from panicking when the market fluctuates or when bad news about Bitcoin comes out that makes you think there's no guarantee. Believe me, Bitcoin experiences bad news almost every year, and even several times it was predicted to die, but what's happening now is the opposite.

what you are saying really captures what long term investing in Bitcoin is all about,it is not just about chasing quick profits, but having the patience and belief to stay steady through all the ups and downs. The market can be wild in the short term, and even experienced investors can get shaken, but if you truly believe in Bitcoin value and future, it helps you stay calm when things get rough.

You are on point on that without that belief, fear can make people sell when prices drop, which often leads to losses. That is why it is so important to only invest money you are okay with losing, it protects your money and your peace of mind. Building your confidence really is a mindset, it helps you focus on the long game instead of reacting to every piece of bad news or sudden dip. .....There are many times that Bitcoin has faced death predictions more times than anyone can count, yet it is still here and stronger than ever.....So while nothing is guaranteed in investing, doing your homework, managing risk smartly, and believing in what you are holding creates a solid path forward.

Great point you’ve made! Bitcoin fundamentals like scarcity, decentralization, and potential as a store of value has been acting as major anchor when the market gets chaotic. Despite the countless death predictions of Bitcoin, its durability has proven its strength. However, risking what you can afford to losing it’s a key point, it isn’t just financial discipline I can say it’s another level of physiological resilience and confidence thereby giving one ability to perform under pressure when the market faces dip. And patience is also another key factor when investing in Bitcoin