Quote from: puloweh555 on Today at 07:42:04 PM

Without Hamas, Gaza or Palestine might not exist today. Do you understand which countries are being occupied? And Hamas can be said to be a form of resistance against the occupation. You must understand the history of the two countries, how the occupation of Palestine occurred not only in Gaza but also in the West Bank.

the westbank is a totally different story with its own battles and land claims totally different scenario to gaza
gaza as its own nation/state/country has got its own provenance claim going back to the philistines millenia's ago
and in recent history has been in control via egypt more so than isreal.. so you might want to look deeper into that

isreali's have long since millenia's ago not had a big problem with peaceful palestinians.. however its the extremists of hamas which are part of the historic extremism of those wanting to bring back ancient empires.. so you might want to look into that

Quote from: puloweh555 on Today at 07:42:04 PM

Don't just look at the events of October 7th, which Hamas initiated; you must also consider what Israel did for the Palestinian people decades ago. You speak of propaganda. Perhaps you were carried away by the propaganda that Israel pretended to be providing aid, but it was actually they who closed the Raffah Gate, preventing access to Gaza.

do you know the context detail and reasons for the march-may 2025 aid restriction.. did you know in march they had sent in enough(provable) aid trucks to have survived the 2m palestinians until october 2025. and so there was enough food ent in to cover a stoppage whilst negotiations happend to try and get a ceasefire, peacedeal and get some prisoners/hostages released.

Quote from: puloweh555 on Today at 07:42:04 PM

Did you see the video of the aid arriving, where Gazans were shot at by Israeli forces? Your statement makes it seem as if Israel was acting righteously, like a heroic nation providing aid that saved Palestine, when the opposite is true.

did you look into the context where the food trucks were NOT arriving AT distribution centres, but travelling along the route TO them. whereby a planned ambush occured. did you also not see the pre-clip footage and reports of where warnings were given but the ambush continued putting the air truck drivers and accompanying security at risk.

personally if i wa a aid worker on a truck. and seen a crowd of hundreds of people 200yards ahead blockading the roads.. id just stop the truck. exit the truck and walk back away from the blockaid and just let whomever take the supplies..
however the security staff are under contract to protect the supplies until they reach the intended distribution site and to defend it from ambush/attacks on route.

yes people should have not risked their lives and instead just waited at the distribution site to get their rations.. but hamas coaxed/provoked and scared many people(to become pawns/cannon fodder/human shields) by saying there is not enough aid to ration out to all those at the distribution site, putting the idea in their head they should travel to the supply routes road, and ambush the truck with a first come first get mindset...
(analogy: much like the idiotic agitators idea put into peoples minds at 4am outside western retail stores on blackfridays. and then all the panic pushing and fighting occurs.. much like how riots happen. much like the toilet paper issue in the first weeks of covid. )
hamas know how to trick innocent people into panic. and people in fear will end up doing risky things if hey think the things they need wont be gotten unless they go to extremes..

Quote from: puloweh555 on Today at 07:42:04 PM

Perhaps it would be fairer to study this conflict from both sides. But for now, we're no longer looking for who's right and who's wrong. It's time to focus on the humanitarian crisis and famine that's occurring there, so we can address it quickly. It's heartbreaking to see the plight of the Palestinian people right now.

Perhaps you're right, or perhaps I'm right, but the humanitarian crisis in Palestine must be stopped.

there is enough food in palestine to feed everyone until mid 2026.. its just hoarded by hamas troops..
isreal has and will continue to send more food in, its the other agencies that are not helping
UN dont want isreal or GHF to handle UN supplies inside gaza border. UN want hamas to come get it at the border
hamas dont want to come to the border because they are cowards, and so they think its their right to take the isreal supplied rations mid route inside gaza

yes the war, crises and unneeded death should stop.
isreal have proven to show many attempt s of peacedeals. yet it always amounts to hamas declining it

what would possibly be best if no one can entirely remove hamas.. is that the palestinians themselves revolt against hamas politically and call for a new election where they can get a peaceful palestinian group incharge of gaza.. but now we are just spit balling lots of other idea's of routes to peace, but all will end up is de-powering hamas's control of gaza