Quote from: HajiBagi on August 08, 2025, 04:52:48 AM

Bitcoin is for traders, but if you are a trader and you know about Bitcoin, you cannot see Bitcoin and traders as the same thing because Bitcoin is a long-term investment. Because of its nature, it will always be seen as a long-term investment with a bright future. Any trader who sees Bitcoin as a trader has no knowledge of Bitcoin and is also a greedy person who should be careful with making quick profits. Investing in Bitcoin does not guarantee that you will make a profit in the coming months or that you will get the kind of profit you desire quickly. Bitcoin requires a lot of patience, and you can not invest if you lack patience.

There is no method that can satisfy anyone who lacks patience and tries to invest in Bitcoin. Many people have sold for their Bitcoin for since because they were unsure of it and when they noticed that its price had increased. It is not bad to sell your Bitcoin because you own it, but if you are patient, you will earn more because as long as we are alive, we all have a bright future.

I am not talking about interfering with anyone's personal rights. The person who has invested in Bitcoin is the owner of that property and he can use his property whenever he wants. He can sell his Bitcoin whenever he wants. And whether or not someone takes Bitcoin as a trading option is a personal matter. But what is proven is that if you invest in Bitcoin for a long time, then if it is from 4 to 10, then it will bring success. I believe in this, so I do not want to get involved in trading with Bitcoin.
However, I completely agree with the rest of what you said. But the first thing you said may be a mistake in your writing because I do not find much relationship between Bitcoin and traders and one and a half of what you said below. And you are right that the more patiently investing in Bitcoin, the more profitable it is possible to be. However, I would like to add another point to this, which is that everyone should definitely follow the DCA method and invest in Bitcoin with discretionary income so that any do not have to face any kind of economical problem in the future.

Quote from: Alpha Marine on August 08, 2025, 07:10:00 PM

This is not true. Not the way I see it anyway. Bitcoin was created as a currency, and a currency can be traded. For fiat currencies, they are traded in the foreign exchange market, and the same can be applied to Bitcoin. The fact that bitcoin gives way more profit in the long term doesn't mean it cannot be traded. I think most time we forget that bitcoin is a currency too, not just a speculative asset.
Different people can use their bitcoin however they want to; they are free to hodl, sell or trade as they wish, the problem arises when you're trading without fully understanding what it's all about. That is why it's relatively better to just hold because that way you don't need any special skills.

I would like to say one thing with great respect to your opinion.That is, you said that foreign exchange is traded with fiat currency. But there is a third party intervention in foreign exchange trading with this fiat currency. For example, if someone buys dollars or euros in exchange for their own country's currency, when its price is higher than the price they bought with their own country's currency, they will sell it. In this type of trading, there is a controller for their own country's currency like the central bank of a country and other valuable currencies too . But Bitcoin has no controller, it is decentralized, so I think the trading that Bitcoin talked about with foreign exchange trading is a different matter
And if someone wants to transact through Bitcoin and use it like a normal currency, it is their personal business. They have the right to decide how they want to use their wealth. But it can be seen that the price of normal currency is decreasing day by day. But the price of Bitcoin has been increasing since the beginning. It is understood that in the future its price will be higher than our imagination. If someone invests regularly in Bitcoin for a long time for their future security, then it will definitely give good results.