Quote from: paxmao on Today at 10:06:13 PM

Quote from: montaga on Today at 08:06:40 PM

The only thing Trump can do in Alaska meeting is to agree to give back Alaska.
Hard to find something crazier than have ceasefire talks without one Waring party partaking.
Most likely the meeting wont even happen.

There is still a big self-imposed by Ruzzia barrier to have conversations directly with Ukraine after all the propaganda that has corner=painted Putin into a maximalist goal. However in diplomatic terms there needs to be some work being done and the US is what we have to make the mediatior role.

Regardless, there is little chance of Putin accepting anything that is not a strategic victory, while the situation of the front and the economies is not there yet. Putin's current proposal to Ukraine is to conceed the most fortified part of the front, for free, on the simple promise of "starting talks" - so the proposal is "give me what I want and then we keep talking".

In diplomatic terms this means "I do not want peace, I am just saying something that I know you will not ever take".

It will take two or three years to bring Ruzzia to something near a real interest in talking. More loses, more economic damage.... All ok with the US.

As usual, you are ascribing some of the Zelensky things to Putin.

If Z wanted peace, all he would have to do is stop pushing back against the Russians in the front. If Z withdrew his troops way back from the front, Putin might take the oblasts that he has almost taken already, but then he would stop.

Zelensky only wants more war because i improves his money laundering campaign from the money he gets from the West.

Soon the West will find another leader of Ukraine for the Ukrainians. And who knows what that leader will really be like. But this will disgrace Z enough that he might leave Ukraine altogether. But a person can put up with a lot of disgrace in return for the $billions he has laundered already, especially when he can go to all kinds of places around the world, an live like a king.

You gotta remember that Z was a pervert actor, flaunting his naked body in shameless acts of perversion on the Internet and elsewhere. He might not be flaunting his nakedness any longer, but he is way worse now. He's an actor doing his best to make $billions and keep it flowing even though he is killing thousands of troops by doing so.