Quote from: holydarkness on August 19, 2025, 09:00:56 AM

Quote from: dplay on August 19, 2025, 08:27:07 AM

From my perspective the sportsbook/casino and it's odds provider are the same thing. By making an account and placing a bet I enter into a contractual obligation with the casino, I don't even know or care if a 3rd party is providing them with the odds.

The fact of the matter remains that the sporsbook decided to do a rug-pull once I started winning a lot. As you and they say, I've "utilized the same technique for so long" but they only decided to do something about it when I won a lot of parleys.

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You keep accusing me of things such as "unfair practices", "bets made in fraudulent error", "cheating or account fraud", "suspicious betting patterns", "violating rules" where the only thing the casino said was "high risk" without providing a sliver of evidence.

[snipping the irrelevant matter of LLM]

Yes, you do entered a contractual obligation with the casino, as per the part that I also snipped, of a clause where they're entitled to cancel and/or void your bets for unfair practice and/or other points mentioned.

I think I've explained what transpired behind the screen between me and BF [of which why this case needs days or weeks even and not a "five minutes case"]. They explained to me the clause breached, I [initially] argued that it is not in their clause and asked them for a refund, they reconsider out of courtesy to me and the forum [not bragging, merely stating fact as per a statement that can be observed in later communicationn they made with me that I posted as a snippet of conversation], then they come with second verdict that still the same, that according to ToS they have the right to cancel, I argued back and asked for reconsideration, of which come the third verdict and [if I recall it correctly] this is where I actually realized my oversight and that they do have the clause for your case, of which prompt me to change plan, to stop chasing them with "there were no clause in your ToS" into a settlement, to get you both to meet in the middle, in order to get you some fund other than the wagers that they've returned.

Then come the settlement attempt, that unfortunatelly can also not be reached due one side refused. And that's where I left, as I've exhausted all attempt I can [and this case is a headache to my mind] and someone else PMed me to take over upon my public announcement that I withdrawn myself.

About me not providing the sliver of evidence, it's because the statement is sealed in confidentiality "clause". Like... literally. Their final findings and verdict was poured in a document stamped as confidential, and without their permission, I can not share this.

I honestly thought that the person who said he'll take over, will get this document unsealed and published, or perhaps get a better outcome. Though unfortunately the step he do is perhaps a literal five minutes case, that is the time needed to type an instruction to escalate to higher authority. Of which... I think you did? Haven't you? Or if you have, what's the verdict of it?

You are still aren't understanding that this is a free roll. BF had all the evidence and still allowed the OP to play. Had he lost a leg, BF would have kept his money. Free rolls are illegal. This case didn’t have to take days or weeks.

One question needed to be asked. If you were well aware of the players’s actions, why did you set him up for a free roll instead of banning him?