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I already showed you the reason why he is still the president. Elections cannot be held when interference and lack of safety are certain.
No need for gym of any kind, but actually need to read.
I already showed you the reason why he is still the president. Elections cannot be held when interference and lack of safety are certain.
No need for gym of any kind, but actually need to read.
And i showed and cited the constitution showing how it's not true. Are you saying that elections that US held in Afghanistan and Iraq with literal US troops with guns at voting stations were not legitimate? Good thing Taliban didn't win at those fair elections
Surely you won't claim double standards here again, right?Religion is not a problem, religion that we don't control and doesn't serve our purposes is.
classic.The oposite is true: Ruzzia wants certain church (not religion) because it serves its purposes. There is no limit to the religion you can personally practice in Ukraine.
Russia demonstrated that encroachments on it's remaining sphere of influence is an existential threat for Russia.
"Demonstrated"... how does that work?
Remaining... or rather "growing if left unattended"?
That is objectively a lie.
Yeah look at Russian military sphere growing
Russians 
quick send some cookies to Belarus, that should be enough to convince them to suicide themselves fighting Russia, and then perhaps after they're destroyed because of course US can't send them enough weapons to actually win over Russia, Belarusian president can come to the white house and thank US dozen times for the great opportunity to be a sacrificial pawn. All while letting China grow uncontrollably and provide them another discount on all the resources they might need. Solid plan!Europe just doesn't have the resources to sustain itself or to manufacture products for export. So it needs to import resources, and it needs to import resources at such a prices that would keep the final product competitive on the global market. Europe needs to either outsource all of it's manufacturing to regions with cheaper resources and transition to providing services or it needs the leverage of Russian resources. Subsidizing manufacturing to work on American freedom gas is just not sustainable long term.
Which matters zero if Europe has to wage a war to defend itself from Ruzzia. That would be expensive. Feeding a bear makes a bigger bear.
Ah right, the scare tactics of Russia attacking NATO and only Ukraine can defend helpless NATO. How come in 2013 everything was fine, and no one even thought of Europe fighting Russia? What possible could've happened then to set all of this off.
Merkel was the only one that managed to keep everything together.
Translation: Merkel good because sold German industry to bear.
When she resigned AfD was at 11%, now AfD is at 24% and it's inevitable that Merz will only continue dropping. This is the real existential thread for Germany and Europe, what genius figured that it's worth risking this over Ukraine is beyond me, but then again once you become a puppet and puppeteer decides to take care of himself first you won't have an option. Germany is now screwed, and if they try to outlaw a party that every 4th person supports, it'll get even worse very fast.
And all that would be fine... until Putin decides to wage a war in Europe, invade an independent country, threaten with nukes.... Then you have to think of something else.
Rise of populists and nationalists across Europe, especially in Germany is fine for you? Trump in US, Giorgia Meloni in Italy, France, Germany hanging by a thread but Europe must send more money to Ukraine because that's working so great. It's like they're trying to destroy EU.
Yes if factories move from Germany to Hungary they're still in EU, clearly it's a net negative for Germany and positive for Hungary, but a zero net for EU.
Then these companies will have to deal with the Hungarian workforce, their skills and... the government. Ask yourself why is the industry still in Germany and not for example in Spain or Czeckia.
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Are you not aware that Russia negotiated terms of oil/gas sales individually with each country and not with EU as a whole? And that's another reason why EU leaders went to Washington. Once sanctions are lifted guess what happens when both Orban and Merz go back to negotiate the terms on Russian resources for their factories.
Are you not aware that Russia negotiated terms of oil/gas sales individually with each country and not with EU as a whole? And that's another reason why EU leaders went to Washington. Once sanctions are lifted guess what happens when both Orban and Merz go back to negotiate the terms on Russian resources for their factories.
Once this is settled, Germany will begin the production of a decent army - yes probably trading with Ruzzia among many partners that is for sure, but also making sure that they have alternatives if the bear goes mad again.
And... welcome again to the arms race - the end result of "spheres" that you seem to think as the only option.
New arms race not because Russia wanted to put missiles in Mexico or Canada or wants to take over Poland, but because NATO wants to expand to Ukraine, makes total sense. And what happens when population doesn't believe this and wouldn't support this narrative. Can all populists and ultra rights parties be banned in Europe so not to provide people a choice? What are the consequences if that doesn't work out in Europe?
China cares about Russian price of oil much less than EU does. Meaning both prioritize their long term interests over short term "sale", but China has a much longer horizon. Only now Russia will get an option, and EU will loose the leverage of being the largest buyer.
Of course China does not care about paying below market. Ruzzia however... they will sell below market. BTW it is quite clear that Europe can go on without Ruzzian gas. But Gazprom...
https://united24media.com/latest-news/russias-gas-empire-crumbles-gazprom-exports-to-europe-fall-to-50-year-low-10416
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Now, even with the world’s largest proven gas reserves, Gazprom is running out of buyers. Russian domestic production is falling fast, with Rosstat reporting a 3.2% year-over-year decline in total gas output during the first half of 2025. Liquefied natural gas (LNG) production also dropped by 5.2%.
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Earlier, the European Commission was set to propose legal measures in June to phase out the EU’s imports of all Russian liquified natural gas (LNG) by the end of 2027.
I do not believe everything I read but this should give you a hint.
So Europe is paying to providing discount to China which supports Russia, makes sense. How long can Europe/US continue to subsidize China and provide them billions in discounts before everyone realizes that they're creating a much bigger problem?
Beijing, from all indications, hopes that the war in Ukraine will continue indefinitely. Hong Kong's South China Morning Post reported that Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi told Kaja Kallas, the EU foreign policy chief, on July 2 that China does not want Russia to lose because then the U.S. would focus on China. In addition to the continuation of the conflict, the Chinese leadership got something else on Friday. "For Beijing, the Alaska summit confirmed its core belief: The world is a stage for great-power bargains over spheres of influence," Charles Burton of the Prague-based Sinopsis think tank told Newsweek.
If Ukraine won't be neutral and won't have limits on the size of its army it will indeed be a very hard, if not impossible, pill for Russia to swallow.
Too bad. I can recommend taking it with a glass of water. Or vodka. That is what happens when you try to take a country in a week and fail after years trying.
I'm afraid you'll be very disappointed once the agreement (if it happens) is disclosed.
Once again with claims that guarantees of NATO's article 5 suddenly mean nothing for Europe and somehow now suddenly everything depends on Ukraine which no one cared about in 2013. Russia will collapse before it lets Ukraine get nuclear weapons (while not being in Russia's sphere).
War has been going for 3.5yrs are you saying Russia can't keep this up for just 12 more months to achieve it's goals on a battlefield?
Nobody knows - probably not even Putin giving the general lack of proper information in Ruzzia, but who said 12 months and who said that it would be enough for any goal. Do not make up things.
Maybe 12 months, maybe 12 years. At this pace of "advance".
If Ukrainians somehow manage to keep retreating at the current pace it'll take Russia under a year to take all of their claimed territories.
And somehow Ukraine and EU know this and that's why they're talking about just giving remaining Donbas territories to Russia for free? Right, makes sense
I did not hear that from any European leader. Maybe you dream of it?
Since when anyone cares what European leaders have to say when Putin and Trump are talking directly? Trump didn't even greet them when they showed up at the white house, much less offer them a ride in his limo. Do you really think European leaders can go against what Trump decides to do?
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I already showed you the reason why he is still the president. Elections cannot be held when interference and lack of safety are certain.
No need for gym of any kind, but actually need to read.
I already showed you the reason why he is still the president. Elections cannot be held when interference and lack of safety are certain.
No need for gym of any kind, but actually need to read.
And i showed and cited the constitution showing how it's not true. Are you saying that elections that US held in Afghanistan and Iraq with literal US troops with guns at voting stations were not legitimate? Good thing Taliban didn't win at those fair elections
Surely you won't claim double standards here again, right?Religion is not a problem, religion that we don't control and doesn't serve our purposes is.
classic.The oposite is true: Ruzzia wants certain church (not religion) because it serves its purposes. There is no limit to the religion you can personally practice in Ukraine.
Russia demonstrated that encroachments on it's remaining sphere of influence is an existential threat for Russia.
"Demonstrated"... how does that work?
Remaining... or rather "growing if left unattended"?
That is objectively a lie.
Yeah look at Russian military sphere growing
Russians are even expanding to Belarus now! quick send some cookies to Belarus, that should be enough to convince them to suicide themselves fighting Russia, and then perhaps after they're destroyed because of course US can't send them enough weapons to actually win over Russia, Belarusian president can come to the white house and thank US dozen times for the great opportunity to be a sacrificial pawn. All while letting China grow uncontrollably and provide them another discount on all the resources they might need. Solid plan!Europe just doesn't have the resources to sustain itself or to manufacture products for export. So it needs to import resources, and it needs to import resources at such a prices that would keep the final product competitive on the global market. Europe needs to either outsource all of it's manufacturing to regions with cheaper resources and transition to providing services or it needs the leverage of Russian resources. Subsidizing manufacturing to work on American freedom gas is just not sustainable long term.
Which matters zero if Europe has to wage a war to defend itself from Ruzzia. That would be expensive. Feeding a bear makes a bigger bear.
Ah right, the scare tactics of Russia attacking NATO and only Ukraine can defend helpless NATO. How come in 2013 everything was fine, and no one even thought of Europe fighting Russia? What possible could've happened then to set all of this off.
Merkel was the only one that managed to keep everything together.
Translation: Merkel good because sold German industry to bear.
When she resigned AfD was at 11%, now AfD is at 24% and it's inevitable that Merz will only continue dropping. This is the real existential thread for Germany and Europe, what genius figured that it's worth risking this over Ukraine is beyond me, but then again once you become a puppet and puppeteer decides to take care of himself first you won't have an option. Germany is now screwed, and if they try to outlaw a party that every 4th person supports, it'll get even worse very fast.
And all that would be fine... until Putin decides to wage a war in Europe, invade an independent country, threaten with nukes.... Then you have to think of something else.
Rise of populists and nationalists across Europe, especially in Germany is fine for you? Trump in US, Giorgia Meloni in Italy, France, Germany hanging by a thread but Europe must send more money to Ukraine because that's working so great. It's like they're trying to destroy EU.
Yes if factories move from Germany to Hungary they're still in EU, clearly it's a net negative for Germany and positive for Hungary, but a zero net for EU.
Then these companies will have to deal with the Hungarian workforce, their skills and... the government. Ask yourself why is the industry still in Germany and not for example in Spain or Czeckia.
[...]
Are you not aware that Russia negotiated terms of oil/gas sales individually with each country and not with EU as a whole? And that's another reason why EU leaders went to Washington. Once sanctions are lifted guess what happens when both Orban and Merz go back to negotiate the terms on Russian resources for their factories.
Are you not aware that Russia negotiated terms of oil/gas sales individually with each country and not with EU as a whole? And that's another reason why EU leaders went to Washington. Once sanctions are lifted guess what happens when both Orban and Merz go back to negotiate the terms on Russian resources for their factories.
Once this is settled, Germany will begin the production of a decent army - yes probably trading with Ruzzia among many partners that is for sure, but also making sure that they have alternatives if the bear goes mad again.
And... welcome again to the arms race - the end result of "spheres" that you seem to think as the only option.
New arms race not because Russia wanted to put missiles in Mexico or Canada or wants to take over Poland, but because NATO wants to expand to Ukraine, makes total sense. And what happens when population doesn't believe this and wouldn't support this narrative. Can all populists and ultra rights parties be banned in Europe so not to provide people a choice? What are the consequences if that doesn't work out in Europe?
China cares about Russian price of oil much less than EU does. Meaning both prioritize their long term interests over short term "sale", but China has a much longer horizon. Only now Russia will get an option, and EU will loose the leverage of being the largest buyer.
Of course China does not care about paying below market. Ruzzia however... they will sell below market. BTW it is quite clear that Europe can go on without Ruzzian gas. But Gazprom...
https://united24media.com/latest-news/russias-gas-empire-crumbles-gazprom-exports-to-europe-fall-to-50-year-low-10416
Quote
Now, even with the world’s largest proven gas reserves, Gazprom is running out of buyers. Russian domestic production is falling fast, with Rosstat reporting a 3.2% year-over-year decline in total gas output during the first half of 2025. Liquefied natural gas (LNG) production also dropped by 5.2%.
Quote
Earlier, the European Commission was set to propose legal measures in June to phase out the EU’s imports of all Russian liquified natural gas (LNG) by the end of 2027.
I do not believe everything I read but this should give you a hint.
So Europe is paying to providing discount to China which supports Russia, makes sense. How long can Europe/US continue to subsidize China and provide them billions in discounts before everyone realizes that they're creating a much bigger problem?
Beijing, from all indications, hopes that the war in Ukraine will continue indefinitely. Hong Kong's South China Morning Post reported that Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi told Kaja Kallas, the EU foreign policy chief, on July 2 that China does not want Russia to lose because then the U.S. would focus on China. In addition to the continuation of the conflict, the Chinese leadership got something else on Friday. "For Beijing, the Alaska summit confirmed its core belief: The world is a stage for great-power bargains over spheres of influence," Charles Burton of the Prague-based Sinopsis think tank told Newsweek.
If Ukraine won't be neutral and won't have limits on the size of its army it will indeed be a very hard, if not impossible, pill for Russia to swallow.
Too bad. I can recommend taking it with a glass of water. Or vodka. That is what happens when you try to take a country in a week and fail after years trying.
I'm afraid you'll be very disappointed once the agreement (if it happens) is disclosed.
Once again with claims that guarantees of NATO's article 5 suddenly mean nothing for Europe and somehow now suddenly everything depends on Ukraine which no one cared about in 2013. Russia will collapse before it lets Ukraine get nuclear weapons (while not being in Russia's sphere).
War has been going for 3.5yrs are you saying Russia can't keep this up for just 12 more months to achieve it's goals on a battlefield?
Nobody knows - probably not even Putin giving the general lack of proper information in Ruzzia, but who said 12 months and who said that it would be enough for any goal. Do not make up things.
Maybe 12 months, maybe 12 years. At this pace of "advance".
If Ukrainians somehow manage to keep retreating at the current pace it'll take Russia under a year to take all of their claimed territories.
And somehow Ukraine and EU know this and that's why they're talking about just giving remaining Donbas territories to Russia for free? Right, makes sense
I did not hear that from any European leader. Maybe you dream of it?
Since when anyone cares what European leaders have to say when Putin and Trump are talking directly? Trump didn't even
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I already showed you the reason why he is still the president. Elections cannot be held when interference and lack of safety are certain.
No need for gym of any kind, but actually need to read.
I already showed you the reason why he is still the president. Elections cannot be held when interference and lack of safety are certain.
No need for gym of any kind, but actually need to read.
And i showed and cited the constitution showing how it's not true. Are you saying that elections that US held in Afghanistan and Iraq with literal US troops with guns at voting stations were not legitimate? Good thing Taliban didn't win at those fair elections
Surely you won't claim double standards here again, right?Religion is not a problem, religion that we don't control and doesn't serve our purposes is.
classic.The oposite is true: Ruzzia wants certain church (not religion) because it serves its purposes. There is no limit to the religion you can personally practice in Ukraine.
Russia demonstrated that encroachments on it's remaining sphere of influence is an existential threat for Russia.
"Demonstrated"... how does that work?
Remaining... or rather "growing if left unattended"?
That is objectively a lie.
Yeah look at Russian military sphere growing
Russians are even expanding to Belarus now! quick send some cookies to Belarus, that should be enough to convince them to suicide themselves fighting Russia, and then perhaps after they're destroyed because of course US can't send them enough weapons to actually win over Russia, Belarusian president can come to the white house and thank US dozen times for the great opportunity to be a sacrificial pawn. All while letting China grow uncontrollably and provide them another discount on all the resources they might need. Solid plan!Europe just doesn't have the resources to sustain itself or to manufacture products for export. So it needs to import resources, and it needs to import resources at such a prices that would keep the final product competitive on the global market. Europe needs to either outsource all of it's manufacturing to regions with cheaper resources and transition to providing services or it needs the leverage of Russian resources. Subsidizing manufacturing to work on American freedom gas is just not sustainable long term.
Which matters zero if Europe has to wage a war to defend itself from Ruzzia. That would be expensive. Feeding a bear makes a bigger bear.
Ah right, the scare tactics of Russia attacking NATO and only Ukraine can defend helpless NATO. How come in 2013 everything was fine, and no one even thought of Europe fighting Russia? What possible could've happened then to set all of this off.
Merkel was the only one that managed to keep everything together.
Translation: Merkel good because sold German industry to bear.
When she resigned AfD was at 11%, now AfD is at 24% and it's inevitable that Merz will only continue dropping. This is the real existential thread for Germany and Europe, what genius figured that it's worth risking this over Ukraine is beyond me, but then again once you become a puppet and puppeteer decides to take care of himself first you won't have an option. Germany is now screwed, and if they try to outlaw a party that every 4th person supports, it'll get even worse very fast.
And all that would be fine... until Putin decides to wage a war in Europe, invade an independent country, threaten with nukes.... Then you have to think of something else.
Rise of populists and nationalists across Europe, especially in Germany is fine for you? Trump in US, Giorgia Meloni in Italy, France, Germany hanging by a thread but Europe must send more money to Ukraine because that's working so great. It's like they're trying to destroy EU.
Yes if factories move from Germany to Hungary they're still in EU, clearly it's a net negative for Germany and positive for Hungary, but a zero net for EU.
Then these companies will have to deal with the Hungarian workforce, their skills and... the government. Ask yourself why is the industry still in Germany and not for example in Spain or Czeckia.
[...]
Are you not aware that Russia negotiated terms of oil/gas sales individually with each country and not with EU as a whole? And that's another reason why EU leaders went to Washington. Once sanctions are lifted guess what happens when both Orban and Merz go back to negotiate the terms on Russian resources for their factories.
Are you not aware that Russia negotiated terms of oil/gas sales individually with each country and not with EU as a whole? And that's another reason why EU leaders went to Washington. Once sanctions are lifted guess what happens when both Orban and Merz go back to negotiate the terms on Russian resources for their factories.
Once this is settled, Germany will begin the production of a decent army - yes probably trading with Ruzzia among many partners that is for sure, but also making sure that they have alternatives if the bear goes mad again.
And... welcome again to the arms race - the end result of "spheres" that you seem to think as the only option.
New arms race not because Russia wanted to put missiles in Mexico or Canada or wants to take over Poland, but because NATO wants to expand to Ukraine, makes total sense. And what happens when population doesn't believe this and wouldn't support this narrative. Can all populists and ultra rights parties be banned in Europe so not to provide people a choice? What are the consequences if that doesn't work out in Europe?
China cares about Russian price of oil much less than EU does. Meaning both prioritize their long term interests over short term "sale", but China has a much longer horizon. Only now Russia will get an option, and EU will loose the leverage of being the largest buyer.
Of course China does not care about paying below market. Ruzzia however... they will sell below market. BTW it is quite clear that Europe can go on without Ruzzian gas. But Gazprom...
https://united24media.com/latest-news/russias-gas-empire-crumbles-gazprom-exports-to-europe-fall-to-50-year-low-10416
Quote
Now, even with the world’s largest proven gas reserves, Gazprom is running out of buyers. Russian domestic production is falling fast, with Rosstat reporting a 3.2% year-over-year decline in total gas output during the first half of 2025. Liquefied natural gas (LNG) production also dropped by 5.2%.
Quote
Earlier, the European Commission was set to propose legal measures in June to phase out the EU’s imports of all Russian liquified natural gas (LNG) by the end of 2027.
I do not believe everything I read but this should give you a hint.
So Europe is paying to providing discount to China which supports Russia, makes sense. How long can Europe/US continue to subsidize China and provide them billions in discounts before everyone realizes that they're creating a much bigger problem?
Beijing, from all indications, hopes that the war in Ukraine will continue indefinitely. Hong Kong's South China Morning Post reported that Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi told Kaja Kallas, the EU foreign policy chief, on July 2 that China does not want Russia to lose because then the U.S. would focus on China. In addition to the continuation of the conflict, the Chinese leadership got something else on Friday. "For Beijing, the Alaska summit confirmed its core belief: The world is a stage for great-power bargains over spheres of influence," Charles Burton of the Prague-based Sinopsis think tank told Newsweek.
If Ukraine won't be neutral and won't have limits on the size of its army it will indeed be a very hard, if not impossible, pill for Russia to swallow.
Too bad. I can recommend taking it with a glass of water. Or vodka. That is what happens when you try to take a country in a week and fail after years trying.
I'm afraid you'll be very disappointed once the agreement (if it happens) is disclosed.
Once again with claims that guarantees of NATO's article 5 suddenly mean nothing for Europe and somehow now suddenly everything depends on Ukraine which no one cared about in 2013. Russia will collapse before it lets Ukraine get nuclear weapons (while not being in Russia's sphere).
War has been going for 3.5yrs are you saying Russia can't keep this up for just 12 more months to achieve it's goals on a battlefield?
Nobody knows - probably not even Putin giving the general lack of proper information in Ruzzia, but who said 12 months and who said that it would be enough for any goal. Do not make up things.
Maybe 12 months, maybe 12 years. At this pace of "advance".
If Ukrainians somehow manage to keep retreating at the current pace it'll take Russia under a year to take all of their claimed territories.
And somehow Ukraine and EU know this and that's why they're talking about just giving remaining Donbas territories to Russia for free? Right, makes sense
I did not hear that from any European leader. Maybe you dream of it?
Since when anyone cares what European leaders say? Trump didn't even great them when they showed up at the white house, much less offer them a ride in his limo.