Quote from: bakasabo on August 20, 2025, 07:50:58 PM

If such calculation would really work, people would never have babies. Imo, having a baby or not should not be valued from if I could effort to have a baby or not. Poop people have more than 2 or 3 children and manage to survive. Some millionaires cant handle expenses on one child. You can still have a child and earn one minimum salary. It will be difficult to raise, but your child will love you anyway, if you have one minimum salary or 3x. If you dont earn a lot, it just means that you not buy new or top class accessories, toys, clothes.

It's not about just "surviving", it's about to live with "minimum needs", not comfortable nor luxury.

If the mother can't breastfeed due to unexpected situation, you must able to buy a good quality formula milk and drink based on the serving size. Don't reduce the serving size due to frugal as your excuse, also don't replace it with condensed milk.

As a human we need to eat enough protein, vegetables and fruits, remember "enough" not just having a small piece of chicken meat, a small serving vegetable, a piece of dragon fruit. But it should meet the minimum need.

Don't think like this "I will bring enough protein, vegetables and fruits to my wife and child, it's okay for me just to eat a big bowl of rice and small chicken", that's stupid. You're working, which mean you should be more healthy than them, if you eat like that, you will sick and can't go work, in the end it ruins everything.

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on August 20, 2025, 09:36:41 PM

People are driven by their parents/grandparents selfishly demanding that they marry and have children.

Yep, it's very unfortunate.

If the kids did wrong, the kids are forced to obey what their parents said.
If the parents/grandparents did wrong, then the kids correct it, the parents/grandparents won't accept it and say the kids is rebellious.

Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 20, 2025, 10:54:37 PM

With that kind of mentality you might end up not getting married or not having kids at all. Sometimes we need to look at the brighter side. I know people who struggled a lot when they were single, but once they got married and had kids their finances improved because they were inspired. They worked harder for their family.

Probably, depends on how much my wealth and woman that loves me.

If I'm rich, she's rich and not a feminist, that's one step closer for serious relationship.

Quote from: Xcode7 on Today at 06:46:07 AM

That's for the short term, but in our old age, having children will greatly benefit us. It's not about expecting anything in return, but the world works that way. When we give everything to our children, we will receive the same in return someday.

IF, someday your children not give anything back to you when you're old, what would be your reaction?