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low mintage on purpose with the intent to make something "rare" does not necessarily make it more valuable - it simply shows a consistent desire to do less work to make more money.
If your cost is so high that you do not make a profit unless you do it this way - then you have an error in your process.
I just dont see the justification to spend 150 for what you call a "trade unit" that is worth 40 bucks tops - because who is going to take something in trade that is worth less than what they are trading?
I am not trying to be disrespectful because I really do like quite a few of the pieces you have made - but I cannot justify the expense in my head (maybe it is because I don't use what I buy for trade?) and any time I ask for an explanation your only answer has been to dismiss my questions.
But I also dont see any real quantity being bought here - most threads are empty except for your posts of "another one sold" I dont see but maybe a few (less than 10 usually) that actually post that they want to buy.
It appears as though I have struck a nerve - not my intent. But since you cannot be bothered to give me more than "Well, I gotta get paid for my work" I will chalk it up to arrogance or pride or just DGAF attitude and leave it be. At least you are not rugging people or setting people up to get robbed/conned like others are.
If your cost is so high that you do not make a profit unless you do it this way - then you have an error in your process.
I just dont see the justification to spend 150 for what you call a "trade unit" that is worth 40 bucks tops - because who is going to take something in trade that is worth less than what they are trading?
I am not trying to be disrespectful because I really do like quite a few of the pieces you have made - but I cannot justify the expense in my head (maybe it is because I don't use what I buy for trade?) and any time I ask for an explanation your only answer has been to dismiss my questions.
But I also dont see any real quantity being bought here - most threads are empty except for your posts of "another one sold" I dont see but maybe a few (less than 10 usually) that actually post that they want to buy.
It appears as though I have struck a nerve - not my intent. But since you cannot be bothered to give me more than "Well, I gotta get paid for my work" I will chalk it up to arrogance or pride or just DGAF attitude and leave it be. At least you are not rugging people or setting people up to get robbed/conned like others are.
The cost is $150. If all 19 pieces sell that would be .....$2,850. Barely worth my time and effort. Will probably just go back into the next project. No ones getting rich on these bars, but they make a great beautiful piece for the FB group, which is the point. I'm sorry you don't like the price but my labor cost something.
I'm not making them rare. Thats just how the numbers came out. 96 total silver bars and divided them by the 3 of us. As a collector myself, a mintage of 32 is way better than a mintage of 96. Your welcome, but id sell them for $150 regardless if the mintage was 100, because thats what they are worth to me. If you can't justify $150 for a 1/2 oz silver physical bitcoin bar, thats not my problem.
You guys are free to go make some silver bars and sell them for $40 if you want, but i'm not going to. Oh wait, I do have some
Message me for some 3g pieces. My nerves are fine, but you ask the same question every year on my post and its old. It feels like you
I make sales on many platforms, I try to keep them all updated so when I come back to them.....say in a month or whenever, I can see whats going on. Most sales seem to be via PM messages probably due to your interference and negative comments.
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MrDipBUyer: He explained to me that making fractional and setting low mintage amounts allows him to make 15-20X on a single sale.
He makes plenty of profit at the expense of others while using a deceptive false scarcity approach.
He makes plenty of profit at the expense of others while using a deceptive false scarcity approach.
More lies, but a half truth. I sold them to you for like $18 each at presale and gave you 2x free silver test strike as a thank you. You are the one that will be absorbing the high premium when the time comes, not me. You're welcome. When you purchased 2 copper rolls, I was explaining how they will perform better than almost any other piece when you look at premiums on singles. Similar to how Satoris always perform well compared to their load value. This is how you determine the premium value given to a specific piece at auction. How many times over is the value over the funded value. Most bring 1-2x , smaller fractionals can bring 10-20x or more. People will value fractional way more over high denomination pieces. These are simple facts, nothing to be offended over. Sorry they offended you, but i feel you might have
Why would I make a bunch of high denominations that is bad for me and the collector in the future? I wouldn't. We need high mintages and low denominations for this, not low mintages.
lol geez guys, how do i get the moderator to remove all of these unnecessary post not related to my sales post?
I have a fun Idea!
How about I pull all bars off the market! I will send 1 bar to any auction house of your choosing and we see what they go for
edit: Nah $150 is fair. just pm me and we can probably trade for something.
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low mintage on purpose with the intent to make something "rare" does not necessarily make it more valuable - it simply shows a consistent desire to do less work to make more money.
If your cost is so high that you do not make a profit unless you do it this way - then you have an error in your process.
I just dont see the justification to spend 150 for what you call a "trade unit" that is worth 40 bucks tops - because who is going to take something in trade that is worth less than what they are trading?
I am not trying to be disrespectful because I really do like quite a few of the pieces you have made - but I cannot justify the expense in my head (maybe it is because I don't use what I buy for trade?) and any time I ask for an explanation your only answer has been to dismiss my questions.
But I also dont see any real quantity being bought here - most threads are empty except for your posts of "another one sold" I dont see but maybe a few (less than 10 usually) that actually post that they want to buy.
It appears as though I have struck a nerve - not my intent. But since you cannot be bothered to give me more than "Well, I gotta get paid for my work" I will chalk it up to arrogance or pride or just DGAF attitude and leave it be. At least you are not rugging people or setting people up to get robbed/conned like others are.
If your cost is so high that you do not make a profit unless you do it this way - then you have an error in your process.
I just dont see the justification to spend 150 for what you call a "trade unit" that is worth 40 bucks tops - because who is going to take something in trade that is worth less than what they are trading?
I am not trying to be disrespectful because I really do like quite a few of the pieces you have made - but I cannot justify the expense in my head (maybe it is because I don't use what I buy for trade?) and any time I ask for an explanation your only answer has been to dismiss my questions.
But I also dont see any real quantity being bought here - most threads are empty except for your posts of "another one sold" I dont see but maybe a few (less than 10 usually) that actually post that they want to buy.
It appears as though I have struck a nerve - not my intent. But since you cannot be bothered to give me more than "Well, I gotta get paid for my work" I will chalk it up to arrogance or pride or just DGAF attitude and leave it be. At least you are not rugging people or setting people up to get robbed/conned like others are.
The cost is $150. If all 19 pieces sell that would be .....$2,850. Barely worth my time and effort. Will probably just go back into the next project. No ones getting rich on these bars, but they make a great beautiful piece for the FB group, which is the point. I'm sorry you don't like the price but my labor cost something.
I'm not making them rare. Thats just how the numbers came out. 96 total silver bars and divided them by the 3 of us. As a collector myself, a mintage of 32 is way better than a mintage of 96. Your welcome, but id sell them for $150 regardless if the mintage was 100, because thats what they are worth to me. If you can't justify $150 for a 1/2 oz silver physical bitcoin bar, thats not my problem.
You guys are free to go make some silver bars and sell them for $40 if you want, but i'm not going to. Oh wait, I do have some
Message me for some 3g pieces. My nerves are fine, but you ask the same question every year on my post and its old. feels like you just try to kill sales if you don't like the price. The answer is the same.
I make sales on many platforms, I try to keep them all updated so when I come back to them.....say in a month or whenever, I can see whats going on. Most sales seem to be via PM messages probably due to your interference and negative comments.
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MrDipBUyer: He explained to me that making fractional and setting low mintage amounts allows him to make 15-20X on a single sale.
He makes plenty of profit at the expense of others while using a deceptive false scarcity approach.
He makes plenty of profit at the expense of others while using a deceptive false scarcity approach.
More lies, but a half truth. I sold them to you for like $18 each at presale and gave you 2x free silver test strike
Fractionals are better for manufacturing, better for the trader, better for the collector, better for gifting, better for introducing new people to physical bitcoins, better for shipping as the values are lower = less risk if lost, its better for avoiding tariffs and many more reason. Id rather have 1,000,000 $20 bills than 1 coin worth $20,000,000. Even though the values are the same, the high denomination would only be around $20,000,000 at auction and it will be hard to move. 1,000,000 small fractional create more transactions and would bring closer to 1 billion at auction and thats on the low side. (This was just an example) This is a good thing and where I'm moving towards and investors will follow. if they are smart.
Why would I make a bunch of high denominations that is bad for me and the collector in the future? I wouldn't. We need high mintages for this, not low. Low is good for collectors though. Not good for manufacturers.
Original archived Re: 2025 Caribbean Treasures "Physical Bitcoin & Bullion" Group 1/2 oz silver bar
Scraped on 28/08/2025, 05:25:42 UTC
low mintage on purpose with the intent to make something "rare" does not necessarily make it more valuable - it simply shows a consistent desire to do less work to make more money.
If your cost is so high that you do not make a profit unless you do it this way - then you have an error in your process.
I just dont see the justification to spend 150 for what you call a "trade unit" that is worth 40 bucks tops - because who is going to take something in trade that is worth less than what they are trading?
I am not trying to be disrespectful because I really do like quite a few of the pieces you have made - but I cannot justify the expense in my head (maybe it is because I don't use what I buy for trade?) and any time I ask for an explanation your only answer has been to dismiss my questions.
But I also dont see any real quantity being bought here - most threads are empty except for your posts of "another one sold" I dont see but maybe a few (less than 10 usually) that actually post that they want to buy.
It appears as though I have struck a nerve - not my intent. But since you cannot be bothered to give me more than "Well, I gotta get paid for my work" I will chalk it up to arrogance or pride or just DGAF attitude and leave it be. At least you are not rugging people or setting people up to get robbed/conned like others are.
If your cost is so high that you do not make a profit unless you do it this way - then you have an error in your process.
I just dont see the justification to spend 150 for what you call a "trade unit" that is worth 40 bucks tops - because who is going to take something in trade that is worth less than what they are trading?
I am not trying to be disrespectful because I really do like quite a few of the pieces you have made - but I cannot justify the expense in my head (maybe it is because I don't use what I buy for trade?) and any time I ask for an explanation your only answer has been to dismiss my questions.
But I also dont see any real quantity being bought here - most threads are empty except for your posts of "another one sold" I dont see but maybe a few (less than 10 usually) that actually post that they want to buy.
It appears as though I have struck a nerve - not my intent. But since you cannot be bothered to give me more than "Well, I gotta get paid for my work" I will chalk it up to arrogance or pride or just DGAF attitude and leave it be. At least you are not rugging people or setting people up to get robbed/conned like others are.
The cost is $150. If all 19 pieces sell that would be .....$2,850. Barely worth my time and effort. Will probably just go back into the next project. No ones getting rich on these bars, but they make a great beautiful piece for the FB group, which is the point. I'm sorry you don't like the price but my labor cost something.
I'm not making them rare. Thats just how the numbers came out. 96 total silver bars and divided them by the 3 of us. As a collector myself, a mintage of 32 is way better than a mintage of 96. Your welcome, but id sell them for $150 regardless if the mintage was 100, because thats what they are worth to me. If you can't justify $150 for a 1/2 oz silver physical bitcoin bar, thats not my problem.
You guys are free to go make some silver bars and sell them for $40 if you want, but i'm not going to. Oh wait, I do have some
Message me for some 3g pieces. My nerves are fine, but you ask the same question every year on my post and its old. feels like you just try to kill sales if you don't like the price. The answer is the same.
I make sales on many platforms, I try to keep them all updated so when I come back to them.....say in a month or whenever, I can see whats going on. Most sales seem to be via PM messages probably due to your interference and negative comments.
Quote
MrDipBUyer: He explained to me that making fractional and setting low mintage amounts allows him to make 15-20X on a single sale.
He makes plenty of profit at the expense of others while using a deceptive false scarcity approach.
He makes plenty of profit at the expense of others while using a deceptive false scarcity approach.
More lies, but a half truth. I sold them to you for like $18 each at presale and gave you 2x free silver test strike for making a presale. You are the one that will be absorbing the high premium when the time comes. You're welcome. When you purchased 2 copper rolls, I was explaining how they will perform better than almost any other piece when you look at premiums. Similar to how Satoris always perform well compared to their load value. This is how you determine the premium value given to a specific piece at auction. How many times over is the value over the funded value. Most bring 1-2x , smaller fractionals can bring 10-20x or more. People will value fractional way more over high denomination pieces. These are simple facts, nothing to be offended over. Sorry they offended you, but i feel you might have took the message wrong.
Fractionals are better for manufacturing, better for the trader, better for the collector, better for gifting, better for introducing new people to physical bitcoins, better for shipping as the values are lower = less risk if lost, its better for avoiding tariffs and many more reason. Id rather have 1,000,000 $20 bills than 1 coin worth $20,000,000. Even though the values are the same, the high denomination would only be around $20,000,000 at auction and it will be hard to move. 1,000,000 small fractional create more transactions and would bring closer to 1 billion at auction and thats on the low side. (This was just an example) This is a good thing and where I'm moving towards and investors will follow. if they are smart.
Why would I make a bunch of high denominations that is bad for me and the collector in the future? I wouldn't. We need high mintages for this, not low. Low is good for collectors though. Not good for manufacturers.