Quote from: paxmao on Today at 10:19:21 AM

Depleting the refining capacity of Ruzzia, one (big) step at the time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGtcZM339uE

Quote from: BADecker on August 27, 2025, 02:35:05 AM

Quote from: paxmao on August 26, 2025, 07:31:28 PM

Quote from: BADecker on August 26, 2025, 07:19:38 PM

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Yep. Russia is being pushed to the point where they will have to start using Oreshnik soon. And they are just about ready, since mass manufacturing of Oreshnik has already started.

And the Burevestnik nuclear engine equipped cruise missile is just about ready to go into mass production... can stay in the air for many days without refueling; can fly at 300 feet or less; low altitude makes it virtually untrackable.

With a military ally like China, if the war has to really start with NATO and Europe, Europe is finished. Moscow considers that WW3 has already literally started. When Russia moves, nothing will stop her except wholesale destruction of the West.

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Again your obsession with the Oreshnik. Again, this is an ICBM that cannot carry conventional load, it costs 18 million a pop and is technology from the 60´s and offeres ZERO effectivity in a conventional war.

If Ruzzia thought it would be convenient to use, it would have already been used.

Look at car engines. They use the Otto Cycle, developed by Nikolaus Otto in 1876. We still use it today because it works, even though we have made some modifications. And it's a lot older than a 1960's ICBM. Those ICBM's work.

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Again, they do work for their intended purpose: carry a few MIRVS with either decoys or nukes. They do not carry conventional warheads and their accuracy is 500 meters radius - which is useless for conventional war.

What does that even mean? Even if it were true-ish, what in the world is conventional war? War is war, and it includes whatever the warring parties deem necessary for a favorable outcome.

Since Russia has the ability to engineer and build Oreshnik, they believe that such is a reasonable activity, or they wouldn't do it. If they couldn't think, they wouldn't be able to develop things like this in the first place.

Quote from: paxmao on Today at 10:19:21 AM

So either Ruzzia goes nuclear - which would be an escalation that would not be in their benefit, or they do another fireworks show at 18 million cost.

Okay. Let's say for a moment that the rest of the world gets together and goes against Russia. Losing the war would not be in Russia's benefit, so expect nukes, in this scenario.

Mass manufacturing Oreshnik is not for show. Just because we haven't been told all their plans, doesn't mean that they don't have reasonable plans. You can tell that their plans are reasonable for their purposes, simply by looking at their military on the ground in Ukraine... faster and faster taking over Ukraine, without Ukraine and the West being able to stop them.

Quote from: paxmao on Today at 10:19:21 AM

All this BA is part of the Ruzzian, US, China and Ukranian calculations since the start of the war. Nothing that was not known since forever - I mean, to most people not to you probably.

Well, you could be right in some ways in the final outcome. And, sure, Russia is being hurt some. But when you consider the damage that Ukraine and Russia are doing to Ukraine, Russia's wounds are almost like nothing.

For example, it's becoming almost common knowledge that Ukraine troop deaths are like a million and a half, while Russian troop deaths are like 15% of that.

Tomorrow is tomorrow. We don't know the future. Perhaps the West will introduce something new and powerful tomorrow. But for today, Russia is gradually wiping Ukraine out. Not because they want to, but because the West is pushing the Ukraine dictator to continue the war.

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