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I usually wait for FP3 before judging if a team or a driver really is competitive against the leading team.  And true enough, FP3 has shown that Mercedes, Red Bull and Ferrari are more competitive than the guys at Aston Martin.  Wink

Surprisingly Sainz in that Williams looked really good in FP3.  This could be an interesting qualifying imho.

1   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m08.972s
2   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m09.214s
3   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m09.858s
4   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Atlassian Williams Racing   1m09.913s
5   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m09.925s
6   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari HP   1m09.938s
7   Alex Albon   THA   Atlassian Williams Racing   1m10.099s
8   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team   1m10.103s
9   Isack Hadjar   FRA   Visa Cash App Racing Bulls F1 Team   1m10.166s
10   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team   1m10.232s
11   Liam Lawson   NZL   Visa Cash App Racing Bulls F1 Team   1m10.300s
12   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m10.349s
13   Gabriel Bortoleto   BRA   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber   1m10.361s
14   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Scuderia Ferrari HP   1m10.373s
15   Oliver Bearman   GBR   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m10.595s
16   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber   1m10.599s
17   Kimi Antonelli   ITA   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m10.697s
18   Esteban Ocon   FRA   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m10.801s
19   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m10.963s
20   Franco Colapinto   ARG   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m11.054s

And I'm now starting to think that Hamilton might go bald again.  Lolol.

Yep this is a weird pattern.
When Aston is good also Williams is not so bad in the same track-day.
We got dry practice 3, and no rain in day 3 so far.
This is quite fun to see since rain was almost sure 3 days ago for the entire weekend. Grin

It's Verstappen and Hadjar in the second row, with Russell and Leclerc in the third.  This should be a good and exciting first 10 laps.  Wink

I wouldn't be surprised if Russell or Leclerc could get on the podium.  But would I bet on it?  Nope.  Not with Verstappen at the second row.  He'll be a man possessed in there.  He'll go for it or get a DNF.

2025 F1 Dutch Grand Prix Qualifying Results

1   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m09.338s   1m08.964s   1m08.662s
2   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m09.469s   1m08.874s   1m08.674s
3   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m09.696s   1m09.122s   1m08.925s
4   Isack Hadjar   FRA   Visa Cash App Racing Bulls F1 Team   1m09.980s   1m09.439s   1m09.208s
5   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m09.676s   1m09.313s   1m09.255s
6   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari HP   1m09.906s   1m09.304s   1m09.340s
7   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Scuderia Ferrari HP   1m09.900s   1m09.261s   1m09.390s
8   Liam Lawson   NZL   Visa Cash App Racing Bulls F1 Team   1m09.779s   1m09.383s   1m09.500s
9   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Atlassian Williams Racing   1m09.980s   1m09.472s   1m09.505s
10   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team   1m09.950s   1m09.366s   1m09.630s
11   Kimi Antonelli   ITA   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m09.845s   1m09.493s   
12   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m09.954s   1m09.622s   
13   Gabriel Bortoleto   BRA   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber   1m10.037s   1m09.622s   
14   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m09.894s   1m09.637s   
15   Alex Albon   THA   Atlassian Williams Racing   1m09.792s   1m09.652s   
16   Franco Colapinto   ARG   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m10.104s       
17   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber   1m10.195s       
18   Esteban Ocon   FRA   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m10.197s       
19   Oliver Bearman   GBR   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m10.262s       
20   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team   No time set       
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I usually wait for FP3 before judging if a team or a driver really is competitive against the leading team.  And true enough, FP3 has shown that Mercedes, Red Bull and Ferrari are more competitive than the guys at Aston Martin.  Wink

Surprisingly Sainz in that Williams looked really good in FP3.  This could be an interesting qualifying imho.

1   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m08.972s
2   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m09.214s
3   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m09.858s
4   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Atlassian Williams Racing   1m09.913s
5   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m09.925s
6   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari HP   1m09.938s
7   Alex Albon   THA   Atlassian Williams Racing   1m10.099s
8   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team   1m10.103s
9   Isack Hadjar   FRA   Visa Cash App Racing Bulls F1 Team   1m10.166s
10   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team   1m10.232s
11   Liam Lawson   NZL   Visa Cash App Racing Bulls F1 Team   1m10.300s
12   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m10.349s
13   Gabriel Bortoleto   BRA   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber   1m10.361s
14   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Scuderia Ferrari HP   1m10.373s
15   Oliver Bearman   GBR   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m10.595s
16   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber   1m10.599s
17   Kimi Antonelli   ITA   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m10.697s
18   Esteban Ocon   FRA   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m10.801s
19   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m10.963s
20   Franco Colapinto   ARG   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m11.054s

And I'm now starting to think that Hamilton might go bald again.  Lolol.

Yep this is a weird pattern.
When Aston is good also Williams is not so bad in the same track-day.
We got dry practice 3, and no rain in day 3 so far.
This is quite fun to see since rain was almost sure 3 days ago for the entire weekend. Grin

It's Verstappen and Hadjar in the second row, with Russell and Leclerc in the third.  This should be a good and exciting first 10 laps.  Wink

I wouldn't be surprised if Russell or Leclerc could get on the podium.  But would I bet on it?  Nope.  Not with Verstappen at the second row.  He'll be a man possessed in there.  He'll go for it or get a DNF.