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Quote from: JayJuanGee on August 31, 2025, 11:50:39 PM

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Quote from: JayJuanGee on August 31, 2025, 06:40:59 PM

Of course, there are many other examples in which fuck you has gone wrong,

*cough* fuck you jjg thursday *cough*

I was thinking about other kinds of examples where saying fuck you goes wrong where the deliverer of the message was not in a solid of enough position to follow through with the intent of his message. Fuck you JJG Thursdays seemed to go wrong for other reasons.

I used to love the idea of having my own day, even if there was a bit of negativism contained therein, but maybe I was either not cooperating enough or maybe I was cooperating too much.
That's a tough sample of an example.

What is the deal with not really being hated enough? Inability to get consensus around the message.
I am pretty sure that BTCETFInvestor would have loved to have had his own day like that.. . .yet he is a bit of an ambiguous character in this whole scene.. which almost causes me to speculate that he might be engaging in his various drama pieces on purpose.

For some reason, he wants and needs attention, yet at the same time, he does not know what to do with such attention when he gets it...
It might be the the line from "A few good men" .

Jack Nicholson directing his statement at BTCETFInvestor: "You know son. You cannot handle the truth." Cheesy

When someone's position is weak, using strong language is not exactly acceptable. Sometimes, even for other reasons, saying the same thing to a specific person doesn't fit the situation.

I have frequently thought that it is better for a person to controllably lose his cool every once in a while, so that character does not work very well for a person who is always losing their cool

If you are constantly losing your cool, then when you lose your cool, it has no power.

So similarly with language, if you are person who never swears (or infrequenty swears) then it will be more effective when you do decide to swear if you can do it in a controllable way.

Guys get in battles frequently on the internet, and some of the battles can last for quite a long time. Usually the guy who really loses his cool loses the fight - yet on the other hand, if someone just fakes losing his cool, then he is not really losing his cool.

Frequently it is possible to tell the difference when a guy has really lost his cool versus that he is just throwing out some expletives for the mere sake of emphasis (and/or provocation purposes).

Some of us will purposefully provoke the other side of the argument in order to contribute to their losing their cool. . which if you may recall the battle with BTCETFInvestor a week or two ago... when he flew on a few rages and then he seemed to have had enragedly deleted a large number of his then recent WO thread posts, he lost his argument and also he likely lost a lot of credibility at that time (whatever he had left). There were several members in this thread who were taking his side of the argument prior to his having had lost his cool in such an obvious way.

Quote from: Cipherpz on Today at 12:05:41 AM

We may seem less cooperative in trying to hold our own, and sometimes it goes too far.

Any of us can lose our cool and/or go overboard in our interactions with other forum members, so surely this thread is more than 10 years old, so a person who is brand new to it or maybe had not been participating, he might need to give some time for guys to get used to him.. .and I am not even going to concede that guys are hostile to newbies unless the newbies come out playing hardball... and we are not in the physical world where someone can just come out swinging and knock out the BIGGEST guy in order to gain credibility. I doubt it works so much like that, even though some newbies might come to the thread with a certain hostility like BTCETFInvestor did after he got caught with some questionable posts that just got worse and worse if he might have just apologized from the beginning and said that they were not his own pictures but that he had a HAM setup that was similar to that.

Quote from: Cipherpz on Today at 12:05:41 AM

But the point is to find a balance, and sometimes the easiest way to bring people together is to find a center of hatred.

I am not sure if the goal is to bring people together unless we might share some ideas - maybe starting with bitcoin but also if there is some need try to stay somewhat substantive, so if someone comes and they are pushing some alternative agenda.. or maybe if they are battling with other participants for no reason or they are making shit up.. or they are not responding well to allegations that they made shit up, then those could be interpreted as somewhat hostile acts.

Quote from: Cipherpz on Today at 12:05:41 AM

But when that hatred isn't shared strongly enough, it becomes difficult to build consensus around the message. It even feels like a line from A Few Good Men. So as much as he needs attention, he understands that he seeks it, but when he gets it, he doesn't know how to handle it. BTCETFInvestor enjoys the drama of his day, but deliberately places himself in the middle of the scene.

You are correct, and it is not good for a newbie to put himself in the middle of the scene.. even though many guys here love technical geeks such as ham radio operators or even guys who have other technical backgrounds and they might be able to share a few stories (that are not made up).

Quote from: vapourminer on Today at 12:25:07 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on August 31, 2025, 11:50:39 PM

I used to love the idea of having my own day, even if there was a bit of negativism contained therein, but maybe I was either not cooperating enough or maybe I was cooperating too much.

ngl having your own day in WO is pretty impressive, at least i think so

A bit of a surprise for sure.

Quote from: vapourminer on Today at 12:25:07 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on August 31, 2025, 11:50:39 PM

I am pretty sure that BTCETFInvestor would have loved to have had his own day like that.. .

lulz as if lmao

There is usually a need for some endurance.. since even Jorge Stolfi had a bit of endurance for like a year or two... before he finally abandoned us.

And, there likely needs to be some substance behind the cute face too... at least a bit of substance.

Stofli was a bitcoin naysayer and even a no coiner hater, yet BTCETFInvestor claimed to love bitcoin, even though he claims to ONLY own bitcoin spot ETFs rather than actually owning bitcoin, which might put into question the extent that he knows bitcoin beyond his attempts to get price exposure.

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on Today at 12:30:17 AM

Hi there...

Here comes a new week in a new month.

All I got.

Do you think that our odds for further down in September might be lessened if August had started out around $113k and ended slightly below $108k (something in the ballpark of a 4.5% drop)?

Theoretically it could be easier for September to end up from $108k, even though sure we have right around 14% in total to make up for if we want to get to another ATH, to the extent another ATH is still in the cards for September, October or perhaps later this calendar year (referring to 2025)?, but yeah we should not necessarily start counting our chickens too prematurely.