Quote from: justdimin on September 02, 2025, 08:46:25 AM

Quote from: abhiseshakana on August 31, 2025, 01:52:51 PM

the fact is, many poor and developing countries are not short of wealth or money, but rather have an excess of thieves. The problem of corruption, collusion, and nepotism in poor countries is not merely a symptom of a cultural accident, but rather a global political instrument. Local oligarchs are used as puppets to exploit their own people, while the global elite acts as directors, ensuring the stage remains set according to the script, developing countries remain dependent, oligarchs remain in power, and the people remain busy surviving, while local and global elites perpetuate the symbiosis.

How long could we blame the elite and the top levels, while letting people get away with it? I mean we are talking about democracy in many nations where corruption still happens and nations are poor. We have democracy and people who would actually make the nation better and not let it be taken advantage of, and yet the people still do not vote for those politicians.

So why don't we start acting like the voters are the reason, and stop acting like the voters are the victim? They are not the victim, they picked those guys, they elected them, and they deserve to live a very poor life because they are living in the world they built. In non-democracy places I get it, what can you do, but in democracy ones, it's people's fault.

The quote often attributed to Joseph Stalin:

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It is not the people who vote that count, but the people who count the votes.

The quote often attributed to Winston Churchill:

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The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

Abhiseshakana explained everything... We can go deeper into "how do they do it", but it's a long-long story. This is nothing new... it's been happening for centuries, powerful oppressing the weak. Try telling the people in Ukraine or Gaza (and sadly, there are many other examples... including my country) that it's their fault for voting for the wrong leaders... do those votes even count?