Quote from: WillyAp on Today at 01:33:24 PM

Quote from: BADecker on September 04, 2025, 08:30:01 PM

If an honest vote were taken of the Ukrainian people - including the ones who have fled the war - more of them would side with Russia than with the EU.

Most of the people fled to the EU.
That makes your statement a joke.

People going to the EU has nothing to do with where their hearts and their vote lie. It has to do with their money.

If a person lives in South or West Ukraine, and he wants to leave the country, where does he go and why? He goes where he can afford to go. And, he isn't going to cross Ukraine through a new Ukraine government that is against him.

This means Europe West, which is right next to him, and is easy to get to. Just because he went to Europe, doesn't mean he is in favor of what Zelensky is doing. It means it was the easy, practical, affordable way to get out of a coming war... getting away from what Z was doing.

Now that he understands that it was Europe that was pulling Z's strings, and MI6 that was doing the election fraud, he is in a big quandary.
How to get safely to Russia.
Where to find the money.
How to help get Z and the EU out of Ukraine.

Lots of questions.

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