Quote from: hellflame on Today at 11:18:06 AM

Quote from: _Miracle on Today at 07:10:43 AM

You and I are opposite sides of history.

-No I don't agree with putting armed soldiers on civilian streets
-No I don't agree with a military style police force
-No I don't agree with martial law and think it is an outrage to require such a measure in a free democratic society
-No I don't agree with criminalising the homeless
-No I don't agree with spending tax dollars on guns when they could be spent on improving roads,bridges,and things conducive to a better standard of living for all.
-No I don't agree with technocrats building a digital cage around a free society that will infringe upon the freedom,civil liberties and privacy of all both great and small.
-No I don't agree with drones,facial recognition,digital identities,cashless societies,tagged populations etc becoming prevailent under the pretext of security.

I can go on telling you what I don't agree with but you are missing the key point in the fact NO authoritarian leader has ever come to power without the pretext required in the first place and the extreme left side of the political spectrum has set the stage for this by bringing about societal breakdown,disorder and chaos not only in the US but across the globe.

Now when the switch is flipped again after yall are finished moaning about terrible Trumop and maybe even a 3rd term is brought in ........maybe Obama will return and all these laws will be already in place for him so he doesn't look like the bad guy having to enact them as big bad guy Trumop will have seen to this by chance.

You have NO idea what the gameplan is here and you think you are on the right side of history?The devil plays on both sides and he cares about neither as long as he can set human creatures one side against the other other while he gets the chance to fully dominate and control them and subdue them to his will. Those who will not submit are outcasts and even among the outcasts he can tempt to keep the fire burning through desperation to commit crime etc continuously feeding a system that requires order from disorder.

Sorry but I have been brought up on the books of wisdom and understand geopolitics and theology beyond average folk and still deduce from all this that it is plain as day for even the simplest mind to see what has been going on while people chase after idiotic compartmentalised conspiracy theories that send them off in all directions.

Even if you are a Christian you should be able to look back to the only one documented occassion Jesus of Nazareth used violence and whom he directed it towards.The moneylenders today are also leading the charge to centralise global power into the hand of one person over a world governed by 10 people and whether you believe this or not is irrelevant. The gnomes who launder gold for nazis and allow corporations to do business on both sidesduring wars are very real just like their master.

You have NO idea what is going on or what is being devised by TPTB. War,food shortages,pamndemics will escalate before the "real bad guy" comes with the solutions. If you think Trump is bad you aint't seen nothing because at least the "bad stuff" he does is out in the open for all to see but imagine a global leader that one day comes on the scene and the whole world thinks he is a real great guy but all the while millions of those who do not agree with what he is doing and see what he is really at are persecuted and hunted like animals all hidden from public view of course because the social media will be controlled so well everytime you switch on your phone you will think the sun is shining.

All these systems you see being built up around you and all these new laws and regulations for your "health,safety,security and wellbeing" are being designed for this.

What you are witnessing with politics going on today is merely a pressure release valve for the conservative types or a rest or lull while the same old people continue building what they have been doing long before Trump came about in the background. If you want to blame anyone for the soldiers being on the street then point the finger at the ones who allowed things to get to the state where he had the reason or to the crooks who took advantage of the situation before. Its like tradegy of the commons really. You have a nice thing going for everybody and people leave their doors open and kids play ball on the street and women feel safe enough to walk anywhere until one day a thief starts stealing from the homes who felt safe enough not to lock their doors and a drug infested loon decides to go drag racing on the street the kids were playing ball on and some primate from a country that thinks its okay to take a woman by force decides to go on the prowl for a woman out walking on their own.

Even ceaser would have had no power if he didn't have criminals or an enemy threat to keep the fire raging.

I grew up really rough, barely graduated high school, spent plenty of time in the streets before becoming a tame middle aged lady and enjoy reading books.

No you have missed it. What paves the way for this shit is division, propaganda, manufactured consent, rights given up for "safety" 1 by 1.

I have an idea of what's to come (since 2008) and for myself (personally) I am not worried but for this experiment that has been equality and liberty for people... it IS failing.
We are observing just how radical of an idea equality was and the damage done by not living up to the founding principles.
Those with money and power will always be clear where their interests lie ---which is why it shouldn't be in politics... it can't help itself but to want MORE.

I am not sure how long this process will take (months-another couple centuries) but concentrated top-down power is always in tension with us people.

That last sentence of yours? Gross. The primate that thinks it's ok to take woman by force is running my country right now which is why I'm not surprised that he also has a mind for war.

Trump= the best thing that's happened to our country in order to expose the rot in our roots. He will get richer and some of y'all will bow and lick the boots on your own neck because you think it's only going to be 'other' people.

And Jesus is alright with me ;-) Much love to him & anyone actually doing the things he asked us to do.