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With all the JS shenanigans, I wouldn't move any coin right now.


Hahahaha

There were a few of us (seemingly more rational, less greedy and more risk averse (disinclined to gamble)) in these here parts who had gone through some of the calculations, including looking at the risks and which fraudsters are involves, and who already suggested that it was a bad idea to go after Airdrop coins, and so the JS shenanigans are merely offering one more bonus reason to not get involved in supposed free coins that are largely attention seeking scams (at best).

It's my personal opinion that saving something for later age is of no use, if it's done at the cost of compromising your present life style. It's also important to maintain a balance between your selling and saving. Don't sell just for luxuries but for necessities.
This is likely going to be a mindset that will continue to cause you to sell too many bitcoin too soon, even though of course, you are free to do whatever you like.
Bitcoin happens to be amongst the best, if not the best, of investments known to man, and you treat it as a means to generate short-term profits rather than figuring out ways to plan long term with it is likely going to either delay or prevent your ability to ever reach actual fuck you status..

But, sure, no problem.
You have to figure out your own way and figure out how to balance (like you said) your long term and/or short term "necessities."

By the way, deferred gratification does not need to be a suffering kind of path forward, and surely many of us have come to realize various ways in which we continue to upgrade our lives because of bitcoin and prior to actually reaching fuck you status.
I agree that Bitcoin is one of the best investments known to man.

There are ways you can use your Bitcoin investment to benefit you in other area of life. Like I installed an 11 KW solar system in my house and for last 4 months I haven't paid any electricity bill while using great amount of electricity in summers. This saving of electricity bill can help you in accumulating more Bitcoins while at the same giving comfort to your personal life.

There is still a balance, and surely it can be more rational to invest rather than to consume, and some kinds of investments generate income for life and provide security and/or opportunities for improvement and/or advancement.. so frequently guys might not recognize needs to improve their abilities to produce income in their youth or that their ability to produce income in their youth can result in a variety of compounding effects later down the road that further improve their income and/or their quality of life (even though it might cost a lot in the short term).

There surely can be difficulties with bitcoin, and sometimes waiting makes sense and other times waiting does not make sense and we are not always going to realize the amount of the payoff... and there are a decent amount of guys who likely spent too much money on buying themselves a house too soon, and so they ended up missing out on opportunity costs of that money.. I had made some similar mistakes in my youth, yet with bitcoin currently in the picture, the choice could be more grave - and yeah, sometimes a person might need to the security of investing into something like a house - yet other times putting that money in bitcoin would have had been the better choice, even though at the time of the decision it was not very clear in regards to which place to put value is better - which could be the case with your solar panels - even though surely, you are in a better place to engage in the various calculations - and if you are at least attempting to be honest with yourself you might go through various calculations and also see how those calculations play out through time.. not that any of us can go back on some of our earlier decisions, and also there surely is value in some of the subjective value and including value that others are also getting from the thing that you invested into (namely solar panels in your example).

anyone here who claimed that shitcoin airdrop yet?
I did, but only on Hoskinson's coin (sorry, @JJG, just answering the question)...considering doing it on btc, but maybe in a couple of weeks when there would be more info.
I consider it a "free money" to be sold asap after "thawing", which, conveniently, would start after Jan 1, imho.

Of course, we differ in our choices, how we choose to spend our time and/or energies and the risks that we are willing to take for some supposed "free money."  There were some privacy trade offs that I had not realized that I was making in some of my own ways that I ended up claiming some of my "free" 2017/2018 air drops (forked coins).

By the way, one of the measurements that some of us already made in regards to a potential "free" 1% or maybe slightly higher airdrop is that bitcoin prices change 1% to 20% within days and weeks, and so largely our bitcoin holdings is worth way more than some 1% or so claim on our coins, and surely bitcoin itself has gone up right around 7x if we measure from the bottom of the 2022 dip until today, which largely should demonstrate that if any of us concentrate on accumulating bitcoin and/or even securing our stash, we are likely doing way better with our time and energies without potentially jeopardizing our privacy and/or our security, to the extent that any of that matters (or should matter) to us.

Also, with the good times of the bcash coins in late 2017 and into early 2018, several of us could have had fairly easily gotten between 10% and 40% for our Bcash.. and yeah, not too many folks got 40%, even though there were fairly lengthy periods of greater than 20% returns for that crap.. .. and I would claim that I had probably gotten somewhere in the ballpark of 15% on average since I had some sales of bcash in the upper 20%, and I also had some that I sold below 10%, and I mostly prioritized getting rid of mine, even though there were issues figuring out how to claim it safely and also some instances in which some of the forked bcash were not released by exchanges until some later  date, such as the Coinbase example, yet there were other exchanges that released in varying kinds of ways.

Anyhow, my own questions about 1-ish % profits.. does not get me too excited to either learn or even to participate in their system that was purposefully designed to get attention (a form of marketing and hype provoking which some folks like uie-pooie (Biodom) don't mind to play into that, so it seems).
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With all the JS shenanigans, I wouldn't move any coin right now.


Hahahaha

There were a few of us (seemingly more rational, less greedy and more risk averse (disinclined to gamble)) in these here parts who had gone through some of the calculations, including looking at the risks and which fraudsters are involves, and who already suggested that it was a bad idea to go after Airdrop coins, and so the JS shenanigans are merely offering one more bonus reason to not get involved in supposed free coins that are largely attention seeking scams (at best).

It's my personal opinion that saving something for later age is of no use, if it's done at the cost of compromising your present life style. It's also important to maintain a balance between your selling and saving. Don't sell just for luxuries but for necessities.
This is likely going to be a mindset that will continue to cause you to sell too many bitcoin too soon, even though of course, you are free to do whatever you like.
Bitcoin happens to be amongst the best, if not the best, of investments known to man, and you treat it as a means to generate short-term profits rather than figuring out ways to plan long term with it is likely going to either delay or prevent your ability to ever reach actual fuck you status..

But, sure, no problem.
You have to figure out your own way and figure out how to balance (like you said) your long term and/or short term "necessities."

By the way, deferred gratification does not need to be a suffering kind of path forward, and surely many of us have come to realize various ways in which we continue to upgrade our lives because of bitcoin and prior to actually reaching fuck you status.
I agree that Bitcoin is one of the best investments known to man.

There are ways you can use your Bitcoin investment to benefit you in other area of life. Like I installed an 11 KW solar system in my house and for last 4 months I haven't paid any electricity bill while using great amount of electricity in summers. This saving of electricity bill can help you in accumulating more Bitcoins while at the same giving comfort to your personal life.

There is still a balance, and surely it can be more rational to invest rather than to consume, and some kinds of investments generate income for life and provide security and/or opportunities for improvement and/or advancement.. so frequently guys might not recognize needs to improve their abilities to produce income in their youth or that their ability to produce income in their youth can result in a variety of compounding effects later down the road that further improve their income and/or their quality of life (even though it might cost a lot in the short term).

There surely can be difficulties with bitcoin, and sometimes waiting makes sense and other times waiting does not make sense and we are not always going to realize the amount of the payoff... and there are a decent amount of guys who likely spent too much money on buying themselves a house too soon, and so they ended up missing out on opportunity costs of that money.. I had made some similar mistakes in my youth, yet with bitcoin currently in the picture, the choice could be more grave - and yeah, sometimes a person might need to the security of investing into something like a house - yet other times putting that money in bitcoin would have had been the better choice, even though at the time of the decision it was not very clear in regards to which place to put value is better - which could be the case with your solar panels - even though surely, you are in a better place to engage in the various calculations - and if you are at least attempting to be honest with yourself you might go through various calculations and also see how those calculations play out through time.. not that any of us can go back on some of our earlier decisions, and also there surely is value in some of the subjective value and including value that others are also getting from the thing that you invested into (namely solar panels in your example).