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Quote from: franky1 on Today at 01:50:31 PM

Quote from: tvbcof on Today at 01:06:19 PM

'Hamas' is mostly Israeli at the upper levels. Just like 'ISIS' of whatever stage-names they have taken at the moment. It would have been a 'blow for Israel' if they _did_ get harmed (in real life vs. just in the media) so I doubt that any real one's did.

i know you are trolling but if you cant tell that hamas speak and write in arabic and isrealis speak and write in hebrew.. then you really have no clue whats going on in the middle east nor can you distinguish the different sides, let alone the different clans, factions of the sides..
.. research better, atleast put an effort into your posts

Hezbollah (which is NOT fake, gay, and Israeli funded with my tax dollars) turned out know Hebrew pretty well. It's one of the reasons they humiliated Israel when the Zionists attacked under Olmert. Olmert (another so-called 'Jew' ultimately originating from Ukraine and pretending to be a Chosenite like most of the 'Israeli leaders' who didn't originate from Poland), being a loser, is mainly not mentioned in Israel these days. Erased from the pages of history so-to-speak. Since then, Israel has mostly had the balls only to bomb Lebanese from afar and has no appetite to show up on the ground. As usual for Israel, they mainly target civilians when they do get another load of weapons from their big bitch across the Atlantic.

isreal have no desire to take over countries, its well settled in the kingdoms of the judeans and isrealites. the "zionism" pursuit ended successfully a long time ago. you can check ancient currency and other historic proofs, that show zionism is over, been settled along time ago. they have no need send troops to far away lands.
however isreal do use troops. for strategic missions to take out terror regimes which if these terror regimes are removed the middle east can join many peacedeals and accords

tell me how many wars jews/isreali started..
tell me of the casualties involved in the wars started by other extremist terror governments (nazi/hamas/persian, ottoman) when jews/isreali do fight the intended targets of the terror military regime trying to claim their purity.. what were the intended target : collateral casualty rate

once you research it it will surprise you
and yes if you want to include small battles and skirmishes..

the nazi's killed more innocents than the jews(able to defend) in europe
hamas killed more innocents vs military.. than the isrealis when fighting hamas
isreali targets on militants and arms/nuke supplier of terror jihadi's vs citizens in regions of iran, syria, lebanon, jordon.. shows that the casualty rate is low for the innocent citizens compared to the intended targets of those regions

i know you want to cry about "60k palestinians" but when you look at that number coming from hamas health ministry, even hamas admit that number is both not 2m, and also out of the 60k that 60k is co-mingled of military and their affiliates.. aswell as some civilians.. and when you take out the number of miltants and affiliates. the number of true innocents is actually far far far lower.

and when you look at other urban warfare in history and look at other sides ratios you will see jews/isrealis innocent kill rate vs intended military targets.. the civilian kill rate is actually low for the jew/isreali striking their targets. but higher for the oppositions who callously and randomly fire
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hamas have the mantra/slogan "death to isreal, death to america".. hamas are the genocidalists
hamas are not some subgroup of isreal. they are a subgroup of tehran, pretending to be pro-palestinians.. even though hamas even kill palestinians

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so here is the point
hamas use lawfare tricks to COWARDLY HIDE. they dont want to come to the borders to fight/defend on suitable battlefields. they hide amongst civilians, turning some civilians into human shields. and then want the world to be shocked at the attack. hamas use protected classification facility to then use those sites as military operations. which legally turns those sites into lawful targets(losing their protected status)
yet hamas do not give warnings nor strategically hit military targets. they kill and maim anyone, grab hostages including other arabs

hamas need to be removed. no matter where they hide