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I have to assume he is dead. The far left need reigning in, they are violent and unhinged. Something has to be done.

Why is it always "left" or "right" people - a life was taken why can't we just condemn violence in any form when it is completely unprovoked..

In all fairness, it isn’t always left or right, it is usually just the left… At least lately. They have definitely become the party of hate, violence, and crime. If that isn’t blatantly obvious to you from this week’s actions, you have blinders on. Calling out democrats for the behavior they incite is absolutely the right thing to do.

Don't let any actual facts get in the way of your ~~analysis~~ spin.

Like these facts?
"All Cartridges have engraved wording on them expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology"

https://imgur.com/a/5DAhhvt - if image isn't loading

The point that I was making to criticize OgNasty was a bit broader, since he was proclaiming that almost all hate, violence and crime was coming from the left.
Surely in the Kirk shooting case there seems to be fairly strong evidence that the shooting was motivated by political differences of opinion, and so yeah, if the bullets are engraved then it becomes less ambiguous that the political motivations were intended to be known.

I think that the kinds of facts that I was suggesting OgNasty to be leaving out relates to evidence of hate, violence and/or crime that comes from right wing rather than left wing ideology. From my perspective OgNasty is so obvious in his own ways of seeing the world and presenting the issue that there is hardly any need to counter it, except just to point out that he is making outrageous claims and failing/refusing to provide evidence for his outrageous claims (or to to rebutt the counter-evidence).

I understand and misinterpreted your comment as only pertaining to this incident. I have no argument against there being hate spewed from both sides.

Though, I will somewhat agree with OgNasty due to personal experiences living in both very blue and very red states. In the conservative areas, I have heard a lot of disgust with the more liberal lifestyles, especially pertaining to what goes on in schools curriculum now a days (i.e. the essentially pornographic materials in books/curriculums, trannies brought into schools for whatever reason, "sex ed" teaching gay/trans ideology, etc). They basically say if that's what you want to do, do it somewhere else. We don't want that here.

In the overwhelmingly liberal city I lived in, there was, essentially, this inherent hate for the conservatives and their lifestyle. I would try and probe them, wanting to understand where this vitriol, this anger spawned from, but there was never a rationale given. It was like arguing with a woman when she "feels" a certain way, and thus justifies her completely illogical thinking (I'm assuming any guy reading this with a gf/wife can relate, haha). They had this mindset that "right is bad, we need to destroy it so everyone can be happy" (no, the hypocrisy of this type of statement is not lost on me). Why? Just because. Or, "they want to destroy us, we have to destroy them first"... how do you know they want to destroy you? "It is obvious, they just do!"

Yes, some more extreme conservatives would say similar things, I don't deny that. The glaring difference between the two is the amount of people with that mindset in each group. It was as though there was an inverse correlation between the two; A small minority of the right vs the vast majority of the left.

Even now I still don't understand why they feel that way, it is quite interesting from a psychological perspective.

What I am more nervous (for lack of a better word) about is escalation from both sides due to this incident. The, divide and conquer the masses so no one focuses on gov anymore, being pushed so hard that it leads to the detriment of us all in the US. It makes me think of this poem (is it a poem?) and where we will be if/after this happens:
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/12279767-the-most-terrifying-force-of-death-comes-from-the-hands

You have given more explanation than OgNasty gave, yet OgNasty was not describing the substantive matters, and I was largely criticizing him for blanketedly proclaiming that the left is more responsible for "hate, violence, and crime." He was actually spinning it as if the left were exclusively responsible for hate, violence, and crime. It might have had been better to see some nuance, yet OgNasty seems nearly incapable of nuance, since he doubled down on the ide that black and white thinking is sometimes preferable, as if we were talking about math rather than sociological phenomena.

I am not even claiming to personally know the answers besides maybe coming back to bitcoin potentially helping with some monetary matters. I would not even claim to know if bitcoin can fix all of these kinds of things that relate to societal structures and the various inequalities, since bitcoin does not seems to bring about equal outcomes, even though if monetary systems become based on more objective values, such as bitcoin (that cannot be as easily manipulated), then normal people might be able to at least focus on being able to save and store value in an asset/currency that is not being debased.

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Quote from: fredericktaylor on Today at 05:57:29 PM

#Bitcoin vs gold performance over the last 10 years
Gold: 226%
BTC: 48,927%

source: x

The chart shows how much the price of Bitcoin and gold has increased in the last ten years. This clearly shows that Bitcoin has increased by twice as much as gold. This chart proves once again that with patient, long-term much investment, more profits can be expected from Bitcoin than from gold in the future.

Try gold nov 2021 to now
Vs
Btc Nov 2021 to now

Gold did 1750-1825 and is now 3660 pretty much 2x
Btc was 69k and in now 115k pretty much 1.6667

So rather than going backwards to compare make a 4 year future guess.
Over next 4 years who wins.
My guess is btc

You are being pretty conservative with your numbers phil. You picked the exact 2021 top for bitcoin and then you want to measure and compare from that 2021 top and you suggest that longer terms are not relevant.

The reality is that bitcoin did around 200x better than gold in the past 10 years, and yeah bitcoin has the unfair advantage of being early in its adoption curve, yet bitcoin's early adoption phase is what we continue to have in front of us, so we should deal with the actual facts and try to not be overly selective with our data.

On the other hand, at least you came to the correct conclusion that bitcoin is likely going to continue to outperform gold, especially in longer term time frames... which means that bitcoin is likely going to continue to have up and down volatility that is greater than gold's volatility, so because of bitcoin's greater short-term volatility, there may well continue to appear periods in which gold seems to be outperforming bitcoin... yet we should not let the short-term noise distract us from our knowledge that bitcoin is a much superior product to gold, perhaps in the ballpark of 1,000x better, even though it could take a while (perhaps 50-200 years) for bitcoin's 1,000x superiority to gold to play out in relation to bitcoin's price relative to gold's price.

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Quote from: d_eddie on Today at 03:13:21 PM

Aha, I guess it's not BIP-39 compatible then.

It is. Always has been.
The seed without the passphrase leads to a wallet (call it Wallet A). Adding the passphrase to the (same) seed leads to another wallet (call it Wallet B). Wallets A and B are cryptographically independent, and there is no way to get to one from the other. Any other passphrase you add to the (same) seed leads to Wallet C, D, E, etc. This can be used for plausible deniability (for more details, see my relevant article here).

So, Wallet A can be empty (or have a small amount, say, 1 BTC, as a decoy, for $5 wrench attacks), and at the same time Wallet B can have the bulk of your stash (say, 100 BTC). This setup can be used for plausible deniability (you disclose the seed, but not the passphrase).
All this is part of BIP-39, and is compatible with all BIP-39 wallets (Trezor, Ledger, etc.).

One thing worth noting is that if your standard wallet is breached, then as soon as possible you would want to move your coins from your hidden wallet, since there are likely ways that the hidden wallets could end up being brute forced, especially once the seed words are know, so then if the password is easy, then it might be guessed (especially using the help of a computer).

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Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 07:56:37 PM

{ Lots of words I ain't gonna read }

Must be something good in there so have a merit.

Thanks. There might be horse in there, since it is rare and unique - even though perhaps repetitive of ideas from my earlier posts.

Nonetheless, I wrote it myself without the assistance of a bot (besides myself).

well duh my entire point is cherry picking is stupid as fuck.

and that the next four years matter more then the past years.

btw at 10000 btc for 2 pizzas he could use that comparison and look much better

it was from more that 10 years ago but if we must cherry pick that one is better than the one picked.