Quote from: philipma1957 on Today at 01:02:32 AM

Quote from: Johnlomape on Today at 12:07:03 AM

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so you cherry pick a nov date from nov that makes you correct
and I picked a nov date from 2021 that makes me correct.

the highest day in November of 2021 btc got to 69 k

We know that BTC pricer is all over the place in the short term, so why put much if any weight behind various prices, and yeah, we have heard guys whine about bitcoin not going up enough, and then choosing some high price point in bitcoin's history as their starting reference. So why go on and on in regards to that kind of an argument rather than proposing some kind of a reasonable reference point. I think that you were the one who initially chose to start out with BTC's high price point in November 2021, and whether you were cherry picking or merely showing the problematic nature of cherry picking, your point is not really clear or even persuasive.

Maybe we could take the 200-WMA of each? and compare them in 4 year plus increments?

Bitcoin's 200-WMA was $16,805 on November 1, 2021, and today it is $52,456.

I calculate that to be a 3.12x increase in value, and I doubt that gold comes even close to having those kinds of "meaningful" comparative numbers... and it gets worse if you try to compare bitcoin to gold over a longer period of time, which is also part of the reason why the 200-WMA has a lot more explanatory value as compared with getting caught up in nonsensical comments about fluctuating spot prices, even though surely if any of us are buying or selling bitcoin, then we are going to be using BTC spot prices rather than 200-WMA prices in order to make our transactions, yet nonetheless if we are trying to valuate bitcoin and to maybe make comparisons of its value to other assets, probably using the 2090-WMA is going to give us much more solid numbers, even if it might be a bit more technical to find places to get those kinds of numbers for other assets..

Quote from: philipma1957 on Today at 01:02:32 AM

which brings me to the point that if you want to cherry pick
use the 10,000 pizza date not my nov 2021 date or your nov 2021 dates
or the date from 10 years ago.

i found multiple date in nov that show gold was better than btc.
btw.
compare btc nov 2021 the peak day ath of 69k

to the 16.9k it dropped to a year later.
cherry picking is a waste of time.

You come off as a caveman looking at shadows with these kinds of arguments.

Quote from: philipma1957 on Today at 01:02:32 AM

all I care about is btc price in four year from today.

Does that mean that you are going to build your bitcoin holdings so that you are ready for 4 years from now? I doubt it.

If a guy is busy buying and selling, then each time he buys, there is likely a 4-year timeline attached to that new buy in order to be an investor rather than a trader. Of course, if you get to overaccumulation status, then that is a different story because then you would have more options, especially within the overaccumulated portion of your BTC holdings.

Quote from: philipma1957 on Today at 01:02:32 AM

and we can go back and forth about gains.
i purchased 2500usd worth of copper wire

I did checked the date april 2022 not 2021
i sold it for around 9700 this month
so it did 9700/2500=3.88 i got 3.88 to 1 on it.
and a very sore back moving it around.

but btc in may of 2022 was about 40k
so 116.2/40=2.905
and for those three years in change copper was better for me than btc.
and it actually is not cherry picking as i actually did in.
which is completely different then going back in the past and saying shit about things that you did not do.

I would have had rather held the bitcoin, and even to keep buying bitcoin with all kinds of resources between early 2022 to late 2023 would not have been a bad thing.

Let's say that I figured that I could gardner $105k between 2022 and 2023 from a variety of sources and invest into bitcoin. So I started buying on January 1, 2022 with a goal of investing into bitcoin for 2 years straight with that $105k that I was going to source from a variety of places, and I figured that I could invest $1k per week for the next 105 weeks (which would have had been 2 years), and so I can look at a DCA calculator and now see that at the end of the 2 years, I would have had been able to accumulate 4 BTC during that time, which would be a good place to be to have 4 BTC based on having had $105k (or $1k per week to invest into bitcoin that was drawn from various sources that I had figured that I could wrangle up over 2 years). I would be quite proud of myself to have had been able to accomplish such front loading of my investment.

Accordingly by the time, that I finished investing (at the end of 2023) then maybe I was not quite at overaccumulation status, but right now 4 BTC would give me a spot price value of $465k, but more importantly a 200-WMA value of $210k, which means that I could perpetually withdraw $21k per year from that, yet I can see from my latest fuck you status chart projections that if I were willing to wait to withdraw until late 2029, it may well be the case that I should be able to withdraw $80k per year from a 4 BTC bitcoin stash..

Quote from: Hueristic on Today at 01:24:40 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 12:26:26 AM

It seems to me that we do not have enough details, and if the distance really was 200 yards (meters), then that is a really expert-level kind of shooting, especially with ONLY one shot.

I don't know why people keep repeating this retarded shit.
200 yards is nothing, a child could make that shot as long as they can line up the long rifle.

I could literally make that shot at 500 meters in the offhand with a carbine let alone the prone with a long rifle.

My shooting really is not very good, and I think that it has to do with my eye dominance so I would have to change my eye dominance with some training.. and surely you are referring to a long rifle with a accurately adjusted scope and surely with either a tripod or some kind of a surface to rest it on (not holding the rifle.. since that would be even more difficult). Surely.. scopes get thrown off frequently, and so there are needs to do target practice to make sure that the scope is accurate.. .

Sure, maybe it is true that a lot of folks can train themselves to cause 200-yards to be an easy shot.. and yeah of course that is around 2 football fields.

Another thing is that I would imagine if someone is shooting to kill then they would be shooting for a headshot, so the fact that the shot hit the neck may well mean that he missed, but he missed in a direction that ended up being quite effective.

I doubt 200-Yards is easy... even if you think so. Maybe others agree with you, and that is o.k, and your proclaiming to be able to make that shot with 500 yards? Have you consistently hit targets (like target practice) at that range? 500 yards is holy shit.. half a kilometer. I have my doubts. Call me an arm chaired skeptic.

Quote from: philipma1957 on Today at 02:18:11 AM

Quote from: Hueristic on Today at 01:24:40 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 12:26:26 AM

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I could literally make that shot at 500 meters in the offhand with a carbine let alone the prone with a long rifle.

They said it was a Mauser 30-06
Which is too long to fit in a knapsack.

They have a photo of him jumping off a roof with no rifle.
Yet the rifle was found in the woods.

So someone else helped with the rifle or he modded the rifle and made it be able to detach the barrel.
It is not meant to detach it is compression attached when the threads are mated.
Wonder what the story is.

Sometimes the details are not released, and sometimes when they are released, they do not add up. What if he dropped the gun on one side of the building and then he jumped off the other side of the building? That might work, right? But then was he going to go around and get the gun or did he have someone else take the gun when he dropped it from the roof.