Quote from: Wind_FURY on September 16, 2025, 02:38:08 PM

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The billionaires, the public companies, and the professional asset managers currently holds 12.3% of ALL Bitcoin. That's not including the supply that nation-states have started to HODL in their vaults.

Don't sell your Bitcoin at the current "cheap" price levels. Keep accumulating, if you want to see, then sell when it's at a seven digit valuation per coin OR when it's equal to or more than the total market value of Gold.

You make a good point about accumulating bitcoin, yet I am not sure what you point about selling is?

What are you selling your bitcoin for?

From your perspective, Wind_FURY, what are you going to buy with your bitcoin when you sell it at those supra $1 million prices?

By the time bitcoin reaches $1 million, we probably won't have very high world adoption, and some guys are going to have had accumulated less than 0.1 BTC or maybe they were able to get up to somewhere between 0.25 BTC to 0.5 BTC, and you want them to sell?

Maybe we should focus on accumulating, first?

Quote from: adultcrypto on September 16, 2025, 02:44:52 PM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on September 16, 2025, 02:38:08 PM

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What is happening now is the greatest transfer of wealth in human history and the rich, who always knows how to stay rich, are positioning themselves once again to dominate this new oil. The good thing is that bitcoin give both the big capital and small fries like some of us the same opportunity to be part of the future and the new money. Those still doubting will be left behind because believe it or not, bitcoin is the real deal now. Like you said, we should hold our bitcoin and not sell because that will be the biggest mistake anyone could make. Buy as much as you can, store them properly and forget them there, that is the sure way to wealth.

I thought that I was agreeing with a lot of what you say, yet I was a bit thrown by your "forget them" advice.

It seems problematic to be suggesting that guys forget their bitcoin, even though it is good to accumulate bitcoin and secure bitcoin, but forgetting them? That seems problematic.

Quote from: icebar on September 16, 2025, 03:23:40 PM

Quote from: MusaPk on September 16, 2025, 12:28:31 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on September 15, 2025, 08:14:23 PM

Another thing is that guys sometimes get locked into shitty paying jobs, so sometimes they might need to spend some money (and/or time and energies) in order to put themselves in a place to be able to make better money. These are not easy choices, and the answers are not obvious since they likely take some efforts from the involved person and also sometimes based on a variety of preferences and the potential to build on already existing skills and characteristics.

Our energies are high while we are in our 20s or 30s and that's the time when we must not stick with our monthly salary (if it's not adequate). One must go for extra work to generate extra income that we can use for investing in Bitcoin. Also if it becomes our habit in early age to work hard then we carry that with us as we grow. Inflation and low salary should not be an excuse, we have other options to increase our earnings. These days inflation has gone up and people are finding it hard to live with monthly, it's essential for everyone of us to find some extra work to invest in Bitcoin.

It is true that a person can work the most from 20 to 30 years and during this period, he has to work for the financial independence of his later life. Those who depend only on their job during this period will have a difficult moment. And those who invest to increase their income during this period can find financial independence in the future. Investing in Bitcoin is smarter than all other investments in terms of investment. If someone invests in Bitcoin regularly with the aim of getting financial independence in the future from his discretionary income, then he can benefit from Bitcoin by creating a large portfolio of Bitcoin at one stage. If investing in Bitcoin from a young age can be brought to the forefront, then it is easy for him to get financial independence in the future.

It seems that guys can try to figure out how to invest time, energy and money into bitcoin, so not just investing money into bitcoin.

Quote from: Ojinga on September 16, 2025, 03:33:56 PM

Quote from: MusaPk on September 16, 2025, 12:28:31 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on September 15, 2025, 08:14:23 PM

Another thing is that guys sometimes get locked into shitty paying jobs, so sometimes they might need to spend some money (and/or time and energies) in order to put themselves in a place to be able to make better money. These are not easy choices, and the answers are not obvious since they likely take some efforts from the involved person and also sometimes based on a variety of preferences and the potential to build on already existing skills and characteristics.

Our energies are high while we are in our 20s or 30s and that's the time when we must not stick with our monthly salary (if it's not adequate). One must go for extra work to generate extra income that we can use for investing in Bitcoin. Also if it becomes our habit in early age to work hard then we carry that with us as we grow. Inflation and low salary should not be an excuse, we have other options to increase our earnings. These days inflation has gone up and people are finding it hard to live with monthly, it's essential for everyone of us to find some extra work to invest in Bitcoin.

I get your point but I think these is even those who are in countries that even have jobs and offer free time or even pay hourly for a job, but for a country like mine where even a graduate finds it very difficult to find a job talk more of a non graduate, then you’ll understand that, inflation and low income is a major excuse but not withstanding all of these, I also do agree with you that, the 20s and 30s are supposed to be an age of exploring and taking some calculated financial risk but that doesn’t mean that we should at such ages life is supposed to be easy because I know of people who barely see what to eat even people above such age.

Most times I don’t have to judge or do a hasty generalization on people especially if I don’t get to know what they might be going through personally and at some point, I believe everyone who knows about bitcoin and believes in it should want to invest and even hold it for long as possible but trust me, a good number of them are not holding it for several reasons and we do not have to blame them totally for it, especially if we don’t know what they might be going through.

If you cannot generate enough discretionary income to be able to invest in bitcoin for 4-10 years or longer, then you probably should not be investing into bitcoin until you are able to figure out how to accomplish such.

If you never get to a point of being able to generate discretionary income, then you are not eligible to invest into bitcoin, since you need a 4-10 year or longer time horizon. .. otherwise if you buy bitcoin with a less than 4 year time horizon you are trading and/or gambling rather than investing, which may or may not work out for you. I don't recommend trading/gambling with bitcoin... even though some people will do that with their coming to bitcoin with less than a 4 year time horizon.

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Quote from: adultcrypto on September 16, 2025, 02:44:52 PM

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But it's also sort of bad, and sad, that there will be other plebs like us that will be forced to sell because of difficult life-conditions. Maybe the BitcoinTalk admins should encourage/incentivize plebs to trade their coins with other plebs in "Currency Exchange", https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=53.0
Cool

Plebs will sell to fellow plebs/HODLers instead of selling their coins in an exchange where the billionaires are waiting.

Holy fuck, Wind_FURY.

Why does it matter how you sell your bitcoin? If you are selling then you are selling.