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This "spam" in Bitcoin is send to a consenting party, created by a consenting party, processed by a consenting miner who his paid very very handsomely for their efforts.  By the traditional definitions of spam you already defeated it: You'll never see it, it never wastes your time.  Instead, bitcoin "spam" opponents are concerned with interfering with the consensual interactions of third parties.  There are fair justifications for them caring about it, but it's just very different from the issues around spam.


[Technically there is some 'spam' by the traditional definition in Bitcoin-- dust payments. But these are largely addressed by wallets not displaying tx details in ways that would encourage dust payments... and they have not been a significant issue or the subject of any of the 'spam' debate].



On the one hand you say no one wants spam on the bitcoin network, but on the other you say spammers
hashave every right to spam as long as they pay for it? Therefore no one has the right refuse the spam just because it was paid for?

The node operators aren't getting paid anything or even asked permission to transmit and store this unwanted useless garbage on their nodes.

Nowhere in your absurd argument do you mention the rights orand interests of the node operators.  
As if the only two parties that matter are the spammers and the miners (those paying to spam the network,
and those profiting and getting paid to mine the spam).

So in your view node operators have no right to object or refuse to store this crap on their nodes?

Bitcoin spam can certainly be compared with email spam, because in both cases node operators are being forced to
receive the spamsomething whether they like it or not, the same as being forced to receive spam in your email. The comparison is completely valid.

But spam on the bitcoin network is far worse than email spam. At least with spam in your email it can be easily deleted,
but bitcoin spam is stored and stays forever on the blockchain with no possibility to delete it, bloating and slowing the network
forever with unwanteduseless crap forever while raising network fees and congestion for everyoneall users.



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Scraped on 29/09/2025, 23:39:36 UTC

This "spam" in Bitcoin is send to a consenting party, created by a consenting party, processed by a consenting miner who his paid very very handsomely for their efforts.  By the traditional definitions of spam you already defeated it: You'll never see it, it never wastes your time.  Instead, bitcoin "spam" opponents are concerned with interfering with the consensual interactions of third parties.  There are fair justifications for them caring about it, but it's just very different from the issues around spam.


[Technically there is some 'spam' by the traditional definition in Bitcoin-- dust payments. But these are largely addressed by wallets not displaying tx details in ways that would encourage dust payments... and they have not been a significant issue or the subject of any of the 'spam' debate].



On the one hand you say no one wants spam on the bitcoin network, but on the other you say spammers
has every right to spam as long as they pay for it? Therefore no one has the right refuse the spam just because it was paid for?

With Core 30The node operators aren't getting paid or even asked permission to transmit and store this unwanted useless garbage on their nodes.

Nowhere in your absurd argument do you mention the rights or interests of the node operators.  
As if the only two parties that matter are the spammers and the miners (those paying to spam the network,
and those profiting and getting paid and profiting to mine itthe spam).

So in your view node operators have no right to object or refuse to store this worthless garbagecrap on their nodes?

Bitcoin spam can certainly be compared with email spam, because in both cases node operators are being forced to
receive the spam whether they like it or not, the same as being forced to receive spam in your email. The comparison is completely valid.

But spam on the bitcoin network is far worse than email spam. At least with spam in your email it can be easily deleted,
but bitcoin spam is stored and stays forever on the blockchain with no possibility to delete it, bloating and slowing down the network with unwanted crap while raising
with unwanted crap forever while raising network fees for everyone.



Original archived Re: I don't understand the arguments for Bitcoin Core v30
Scraped on 29/09/2025, 23:34:20 UTC

This "spam" in Bitcoin is send to a consenting party, created by a consenting party, processed by a consenting miner who his paid very very handsomely for their efforts.  By the traditional definitions of spam you already defeated it: You'll never see it, it never wastes your time.  Instead, bitcoin "spam" opponents are concerned with interfering with the consensual interactions of third parties.  There are fair justifications for them caring about it, but it's just very different from the issues around spam.


[Technically there is some 'spam' by the traditional definition in Bitcoin-- dust payments. But these are largely addressed by wallets not displaying tx details in ways that would encourage dust payments... and they have not been a significant issue or the subject of any of the 'spam' debate].



On the one hand you say no one wants spam on the bitcoin network, but on the other you say spammers
has every right to spam as long as they pay for it? Therefore no one has the right refuse the spam just because it was paid for?

With Core 30 node operators aren't getting paid or even asked permission to transmit and store this unwanted garbage.

Nowhere in your absurd argument do you mention the rights or interests of the node operators. 
As if the only two parties that matter are the spammers and the miners (those paying to spam the network,
and those getting paid and profiting to mine it.

So in your view node operators have no right to object or refuse to store this worthless garbage on their nodes?

Bitcoin spam can certainly be compared with email spam, because in both cases node operators are being forced to
receive the spam whether they like it or not. The comparison is completely valid.

But spam on the bitcoin network is far worse than email spam. At least with spam in your email it can be easily deleted,
but bitcoin spam is stored and stays forever on the blockchain, slowing down the network with unwanted crap while raising
network fees for everyone.