Quote from: Rias on May 07, 2014, 07:54:39 PM

Good, I'm sorry if it was disproportional.

I think we all had a bad day because of this FUD attack.

Quote from: Rias on May 07, 2014, 07:54:39 PM

My main questions were about skyrocket difficulty, a potentially unfair optimized miners, and an unfair take-over-control procedure.

As the miner is open-source now, and the difficulty chart can't be explained anyhow, the only one to ask you is how did it happen with the renaming and cloning the git.

Skyrocketing difficulty: it was not us, but none of us (us = the habitués of IRC, the "team") cannot give evidence that it was not us. So this all about trust. Notice the difficulty dropped not long after Noodle released the code. Of course, we can imagine that Noodle release a different code than the one he was actually using and is just pretending to be the nice guy.. More believable assumption is that someone else noticed the correction and corrected them but did not say it (à la ArtForz).

Unfair optimized miner: Well, now the code is release, this is passé (I am not implying it was unfair at any moment, save for Noodle testing - I just say that since the code is release, this is not worth debatting it anymore). Notice though that for a long time, the Windows code was twice slower than the Unix one.

Unfair take-over procedure. Public announcement on the forum hours in advances, public voting on IRC with a votebot. Sure, a lot of people who are in monero now were not there at the moment, but this is inevitable, especially for a renaming. If it was for something recurring, like election, there would other opportunities, but here there is not. I dont like the word "bitcoin" but well, it will "grow on me" (the CEO of Nike did not like the Nike logo when it was proposed - but it grew on him).

I hope my answers address your question. If not, don't hesitate to ask more.

Quote from: Johnny Mnemonic on May 07, 2014, 07:56:26 PM

Rias, I don't think there is any intentional deception on part of the dev team. Most of what you've pointed out was simply the result of hasty decision making. I know this because I was present for much of it. For example, when the coin was renamed, tacotime, smooth, eizh, david, myself and maybe 2 or 3 other people voted on it. You can say we were being "secretive", but at the time we pretty much were the only stakeholders and accounted for the vast majority of MRO's hashrate. Edit: It's also worth noting that a public naming discussion was attempted, but only resulted in a domain race.:

Yes, this actually what convinced me to do it on the forum. Someone just registered bitmonero(.org or .com, I don't remember) and bitmone.ro.

Quote from: Johnny Mnemonic on May 07, 2014, 07:56:26 PM

I have little reason to defend MRO as I've stated plenty that I think it has long term flaws and some important decisions were hastily made that I personally witnessed on irc. However, I'm pretty certain there is no foul play involved and these folks took a lot of care to make the launch as fair as possible.

As Wikipedia says: "assume good faith"

Could you remind me of these flaws you perceived? I honestly don't remember.

Quote from: eizh on May 07, 2014, 08:11:34 PM

and the OP still looks like a pre-ANN so newbies have no idea what to do or how to mine

Original complaint for information.